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Which raises another question: - How bad can it be, if it stays undiagnosed?

by kmarc 5y ago

brunoc 5y ago
It's kind of like needing to wear glasses; all you know is that everything looks blurry, and as far as you know that's how everyone sees. And if you struggle to see clearly, well, that's your problem. My guess is that it stays undiagnosed because doctors aren't trained to make the connection between untreated ADHD (as an adult) and the disparate consequences it has on one's life.
midasz 5y ago
My wife was diagnosed with ADD (ADHD-I) at 20 (no points for H at all, literally none). When all stimuli hit you at the same level it's really tiring. Someone clicking their pen, bird chirping outside, someone coughing in the hallway or the classroom next to you, someone picking his nose in the corner of your eyes etc. She isn't able to filter them at all. I've come home to the place being flooded because she ran a bath but remembered she needed to do something in the kitchen, and that prompted something else, etc. We've fought because of little things, but those little things combined with having to process every single stimuli the world throws at you is difficult. If you're focusing on work, or just sitting around do you even register the things going on outside? She does. At the same 'volume' as the thing she's trying to focus on. In high school she missed more classes than she went to. She was deemed lazy, dumb, and uncaring. We have three levels in the Netherlands and she barely completed the lowest one. Mainly because she was home sleeping, or just wandering off with her mind, migraines - you name it. When she had to write school reports for a specific class the teacher would be baffled by the report. It went from the actual subject to a few pages of an English report, then a chapter of economics. I always imagined it as her having to go to the bathroom, coming back and remembering 'Shit I needed to write that book report for English class'. Because, obviously, this was only started just before or even after the deadline. You'd think the schoolsystem would raise an alarm right? Nah, she wasn't exactly 'trouble' as in being busy / shouting / name any typical bad behaviour. She was just chaotic and 'dumb'. Real easy conclusion, especially when you have kids getting in fights and smoking joints - at least she was trying to do her homework. So she missed a lot of opportunities, felt really bad about herself to put it lightly, and the migraines are a bitch too. I don't know if that's how bad it can be when undiagnosed but yeah. When the psychiatrist did the sessions / tried medications they also took an IQ test which indicated that when the world is not throwing stimuli at her (well it still is, but with the help of the meds she can filter it) she's actually really fucking intelligent (remember the lowest level she barely passed, could've easily done the highest level and moved on to university). After years of hard work catching up she did complete a BA and I couldn't be prouder. It's not easy believing in yourself after so many years of people saying you're dumb and lazy.
- kmarc 5y ago
  Thanks for the elaborate answer. > If you're focusing on work, or just sitting around do you even register the things going on outside? I actually do, and took me a while to realize that not everyone experiences surroundings as I do. Definitely can relate to this, and some of the other patterns you and others described here.
- nefitty 5y ago
  She sounds lucky to have someone that would take the time to understand her experience. Good job man.
webnrrd2k 5y ago
How bad can cancer be, if it stays undiagnosed? There are lots of serious conditions that, if left undiagnosed, are quite damaging or fatal. Plus, it's often especially difficult to see how psychological/psychiatric problems affect oneself. It's easy to misattribute causes or misunderstand conditions. There are posts in this very discussion that tell how damaging undiagnosed ADHD has been.
username90 5y ago
Its the difference between being capable of joining Google and being unable to get anything better than McDonalds or similar. Sure you can go through life working minimum wage jobs and never see a doctor about it, but I certainly feel my life is better on medication. Basically it is the "I could do it if I just wanted/tried', and adhd was what prevented the person from wanting/trying.

Which raises another question: - How bad can it be, if it stays undiagnosed?

by kmarc 5y ago

Which raises another question: - How bad can it be, if it stays undiagnosed?

It's kind of like needing to wear glasses; all you know is that everything looks blurry, and as far as you know that's how everyone sees. And if you struggle to see clearly, well, that's your problem. My guess is that it stays undiagnosed because doctors aren't trained to make the connection between untreated ADHD (as an adult) and the disparate consequences it has on one's life.

midasz 5y ago

My wife was diagnosed with ADD (ADHD-I) at 20 (no points for H at all, literally none). When all stimuli hit you at the same level it's really tiring. Someone clicking their pen, bird chirping outside, someone coughing in the hallway or the classroom next to you, someone picking his nose in the corner of your eyes etc. She isn't able to filter them at all. I've come home to the place being flooded because she ran a bath but remembered she needed to do something in the kitchen, and that prompted something else, etc. We've fought because of little things, but those little things combined with having to process every single stimuli the world throws at you is difficult. If you're focusing on work, or just sitting around do you even register the things going on outside? She does. At the same 'volume' as the thing she's trying to focus on. In high school she missed more classes than she went to. She was deemed lazy, dumb, and uncaring. We have three levels in the Netherlands and she barely completed the lowest one. Mainly because she was home sleeping, or just wandering off with her mind, migraines - you name it. When she had to write school reports for a specific class the teacher would be baffled by the report. It went from the actual subject to a few pages of an English report, then a chapter of economics. I always imagined it as her having to go to the bathroom, coming back and remembering 'Shit I needed to write that book report for English class'. Because, obviously, this was only started just before or even after the deadline. You'd think the schoolsystem would raise an alarm right? Nah, she wasn't exactly 'trouble' as in being busy / shouting / name any typical bad behaviour. She was just chaotic and 'dumb'. Real easy conclusion, especially when you have kids getting in fights and smoking joints - at least she was trying to do her homework. So she missed a lot of opportunities, felt really bad about herself to put it lightly, and the migraines are a bitch too. I don't know if that's how bad it can be when undiagnosed but yeah. When the psychiatrist did the sessions / tried medications they also took an IQ test which indicated that when the world is not throwing stimuli at her (well it still is, but with the help of the meds she can filter it) she's actually really fucking intelligent (remember the lowest level she barely passed, could've easily done the highest level and moved on to university). After years of hard work catching up she did complete a BA and I couldn't be prouder. It's not easy believing in yourself after so many years of people saying you're dumb and lazy.

kmarc 5y ago
Thanks for the elaborate answer. > If you're focusing on work, or just sitting around do you even register the things going on outside? I actually do, and took me a while to realize that not everyone experiences surroundings as I do. Definitely can relate to this, and some of the other patterns you and others described here.
nefitty 5y ago
She sounds lucky to have someone that would take the time to understand her experience. Good job man.

webnrrd2k 5y ago

How bad can cancer be, if it stays undiagnosed? There are lots of serious conditions that, if left undiagnosed, are quite damaging or fatal. Plus, it's often especially difficult to see how psychological/psychiatric problems affect oneself. It's easy to misattribute causes or misunderstand conditions. There are posts in this very discussion that tell how damaging undiagnosed ADHD has been.

username90 5y ago

Its the difference between being capable of joining Google and being unable to get anything better than McDonalds or similar. Sure you can go through life working minimum wage jobs and never see a doctor about it, but I certainly feel my life is better on medication. Basically it is the "I could do it if I just wanted/tried', and adhd was what prevented the person from wanting/trying.