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Please don't use the word "pick". It sounds exactly like the Dutch word for penis. Also don't use the word "could" because in Dutch that sounds like a nasty wo

by ralfn 5y ago

Please don't use the word "pick". It sounds exactly like the Dutch word for penis. Also don't use the word "could" because in Dutch that sounds like a nasty word for vagina. Thanks for being considerate. There is nothing wrong with your English language, but sometimes it sounds offensive in mine. Nah. I'm joking obviously. I do understand that in an international project with the dominance of English it makes it easier to take these things into account. I don't blame them for looking for a new name. But the idea that the whole world changes their values and language constructs to not offend American sexual oppressive culture is still stupid. I do blame Americans for that.

paldepind2 5y ago
> But the idea that the whole world changes their values and language constructs to not offend American sexual oppressive culture is still stupid. I completely agree with that. If anyone demands that then that I would certainly not agree with that. But, I don't think that is what this is about at all. It's my impression that most people who think Coq should get a new name aren't "offended", they just think it's a bad name and that Coq should have a good name. "Pick" actually sounds like penis in my native language (danish) as well, and I'm pretty sure that a danish company launching a product for the danish market would avoid the name "Pick". I assume that if you where to launch a product in the Netherlands you would avoid naming it "Pick" as well?
- makapuf 5y ago
  See also: Mövenpick the ice cream brand https://www.moevenpick-icecream.com/ https://www.moevenpick-icecream.com/ where moven are birds
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- coldtea 5y ago
  Well, Kavli (as in "Kavli Crispy Garlic" snack and the Kavli foundation) means "big cock" in Greek. Would anyone be even remotely offended? No...
- ralfn 5y ago
  > I assume that if you where to launch a product in the Netherlands you would avoid naming it "Pick" as well? Not really. But its not a fair comparision, because Coq isn't an American or British research project, its a french project. Its not even a commercial product or anything. So i fully understand they want to change their name, but it is sad they feel forced to. Honestly, if someone is harressed by actual adults within a particular culture for using something that could somehow make a 14 year old little boy giggle, then i strongly suggest they leave whatever culture they are in, because its completely backwards. The problem to infantile behavior and sexism in particular cultures isn't sovled by every other culture renaming their stuff to not trigger this behavior. Lets solve sexual harrassment in English speaking countries by the rest of the world avoiding doing anything that has any phonetic resembles to genitals. Does that not sound idiotic? Is that a not a weird English privilege that other languages don't get? Again i understand and respect the decision by the project. In the end you just dont want people to get harressed. But lets not pretend the problem is the name. The problem is certain cultures lacking adult behavioral norms for men.

by ralfn 5y ago

paldepind2 5y ago

> But the idea that the whole world changes their values and language constructs to not offend American sexual oppressive culture is still stupid. I completely agree with that. If anyone demands that then that I would certainly not agree with that. But, I don't think that is what this is about at all. It's my impression that most people who think Coq should get a new name aren't "offended", they just think it's a bad name and that Coq should have a good name. "Pick" actually sounds like penis in my native language (danish) as well, and I'm pretty sure that a danish company launching a product for the danish market would avoid the name "Pick". I assume that if you where to launch a product in the Netherlands you would avoid naming it "Pick" as well?

makapuf 5y ago
See also: Mövenpick the ice cream brand https://www.moevenpick-icecream.com/ https://www.moevenpick-icecream.com/ where moven are birds
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coldtea 5y ago
Well, Kavli (as in "Kavli Crispy Garlic" snack and the Kavli foundation) means "big cock" in Greek. Would anyone be even remotely offended? No...
ralfn 5y ago
> I assume that if you where to launch a product in the Netherlands you would avoid naming it "Pick" as well? Not really. But its not a fair comparision, because Coq isn't an American or British research project, its a french project. Its not even a commercial product or anything. So i fully understand they want to change their name, but it is sad they feel forced to. Honestly, if someone is harressed by actual adults within a particular culture for using something that could somehow make a 14 year old little boy giggle, then i strongly suggest they leave whatever culture they are in, because its completely backwards. The problem to infantile behavior and sexism in particular cultures isn't sovled by every other culture renaming their stuff to not trigger this behavior. Lets solve sexual harrassment in English speaking countries by the rest of the world avoiding doing anything that has any phonetic resembles to genitals. Does that not sound idiotic? Is that a not a weird English privilege that other languages don't get? Again i understand and respect the decision by the project. In the end you just dont want people to get harressed. But lets not pretend the problem is the name. The problem is certain cultures lacking adult behavioral norms for men.