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Well, we all know the every-other-version-of-Windows-rule: Windows 2000 - Good Windows ME - Bad Windows XP - Good Windows Vista - Bad Windows 7 - Good Win

Well, we all know the every-other-version-of-Windows-rule: Windows 2000 - Good Windows ME - Bad Windows XP - Good Windows Vista - Bad Windows 7 - Good Windows 8 - Bad Windows 10 - Good Windows 11 - ????

tomxor 5y ago
or Linux + Official Windows API? :D you never know
- mattowen_uk 5y ago
  Is there RemoteApp ability in any of the linux RDP clients? If so, there's the option of running Windows in a VM on your Linux machine, and having seamless Windows apps on your Linux desktop. It's a bit like what MS are going to offer with their WSL, but in reverse. I've never tried it, but it might work, and give people the best of both worlds.
  - tomxor 5y ago
    WSL is not really virtualised, it's a linux kernel translation layer for linux userland (which is why it's not actually letting you use linux at all, it's allowing you to run GNU and some linux programs). What I mean is the reverse, running win programs on Linux without virtualisation, like WINE, but official win libs. Imagine MS porting the _official_ windows libs to linux and FOSSing them so we don't have to play WINE roulette and get some official compatibility. It's not inconceivable, MS already realises their future is in SaaS, not desktop OS, this is an opportunity for them to finally throw in the towel and focus on their future. ... but it's probably not gona happen, they can easily keep eating the cost of windows and keep it as leverage just in-case, user experience be damned.
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
      What you're saying about WSL was true of WSL 1, but WSL 2 is a virtualized Linux kernel.
      - tomxor 5y ago
        Ah, thanks, I did not realise that.
  - imhoguy 5y ago
    As you wish https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps "Run Windows apps such as Microsoft Office/Adobe in Linux (Ubuntu/Fedora) and GNOME/KDE as if they were a part of the native OS, including Nautilus integration."
    - mattowen_uk 5y ago
      Aha! That's exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks!
- flyingfences 5y ago
  Will 2025 finally be the Year of the Linux Desktop?
xxs 5y ago
Ugh, I'd take 8 over 10 any time - no extra ads
- jhickok 5y ago
  Windows 8.1 maybe, but Win 8 was Vista/ME tier.
  - xxs 5y ago
    sure, I consider 8.1, the 8
    - tonyedgecombe 5y ago
      From a development perspective 8.1 caused me more problems than 8.
atatatat 5y ago
> Windows 11 - Bulk Surveillance
- Izkata 5y ago
  Telescreen Edition? ...now I'm wondering how many of the average consumer would even recognize that.
selfhoster11 5y ago
You missed a number with 8.1. Windows 7 - Good Windows 8 - Bad Windows 8.1 - Good (a bit) Windows 10 - Bad Windows 11 - ???? (Good, hopefully) That matches my perception more closely tbf
catblast01 5y ago
Windows ME really doesn’t belong in this list. Comparing the NT lineage to the non NT lineage is silly IMHO. ME was a successor of 98, not 2000.
- snarfy 5y ago
  Calling ME a successor to 98 isn't quite fair either, considering the amount of NT that was shoehorned into ME's code base. It really was an amalgamation of both code bases.
  - catblast01 5y ago
    There was some networking shit, a few utilities and shell enhancements, what else? I don’t think much of NT was shoehorned into Me, correct me if you think otherwise.

tomxor 5y ago

or Linux + Official Windows API? :D you never know

mattowen_uk 5y ago
Is there RemoteApp ability in any of the linux RDP clients? If so, there's the option of running Windows in a VM on your Linux machine, and having seamless Windows apps on your Linux desktop. It's a bit like what MS are going to offer with their WSL, but in reverse. I've never tried it, but it might work, and give people the best of both worlds.
- tomxor 5y ago
  WSL is not really virtualised, it's a linux kernel translation layer for linux userland (which is why it's not actually letting you use linux at all, it's allowing you to run GNU and some linux programs). What I mean is the reverse, running win programs on Linux without virtualisation, like WINE, but official win libs. Imagine MS porting the _official_ windows libs to linux and FOSSing them so we don't have to play WINE roulette and get some official compatibility. It's not inconceivable, MS already realises their future is in SaaS, not desktop OS, this is an opportunity for them to finally throw in the towel and focus on their future. ... but it's probably not gona happen, they can easily keep eating the cost of windows and keep it as leverage just in-case, user experience be damned.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    What you're saying about WSL was true of WSL 1, but WSL 2 is a virtualized Linux kernel.
    - tomxor 5y ago
      Ah, thanks, I did not realise that.
- imhoguy 5y ago
  As you wish https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps "Run Windows apps such as Microsoft Office/Adobe in Linux (Ubuntu/Fedora) and GNOME/KDE as if they were a part of the native OS, including Nautilus integration."
  - mattowen_uk 5y ago
    Aha! That's exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks!
flyingfences 5y ago
Will 2025 finally be the Year of the Linux Desktop?

xxs 5y ago

Ugh, I'd take 8 over 10 any time - no extra ads

jhickok 5y ago
Windows 8.1 maybe, but Win 8 was Vista/ME tier.
- xxs 5y ago
  sure, I consider 8.1, the 8
  - tonyedgecombe 5y ago
    From a development perspective 8.1 caused me more problems than 8.

atatatat 5y ago

> Windows 11 - Bulk Surveillance

Izkata 5y ago
Telescreen Edition? ...now I'm wondering how many of the average consumer would even recognize that.

selfhoster11 5y ago

You missed a number with 8.1. Windows 7 - Good Windows 8 - Bad Windows 8.1 - Good (a bit) Windows 10 - Bad Windows 11 - ???? (Good, hopefully) That matches my perception more closely tbf

catblast01 5y ago

Windows ME really doesn’t belong in this list. Comparing the NT lineage to the non NT lineage is silly IMHO. ME was a successor of 98, not 2000.

snarfy 5y ago
Calling ME a successor to 98 isn't quite fair either, considering the amount of NT that was shoehorned into ME's code base. It really was an amalgamation of both code bases.
- catblast01 5y ago
  There was some networking shit, a few utilities and shell enhancements, what else? I don’t think much of NT was shoehorned into Me, correct me if you think otherwise.