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You don't have to sell out to a big US company, so it's worth pausing to ask how we've reached the situation you described.

onion2k 5y ago
Of course you don't, but someone offering to make you a multi-millionaire is hard to say no to. I imagine. I've never been in the situation unfortunately.
- throwaway12509 5y ago
  Generally it's not you making the decision but some investor who needs to close out a 10y fund and can force the sale through some nasty term in the SHA. In a unicorn situation, the founder will generally take money off the table early and will be okay regardless. Just look at WeWork.
- Silhouette 5y ago
  It certainly is, but in the US there have apparently been enough incentives for some founders not to accept an offer at that level. Some of those founders have gone on to build their businesses up to billion-dollar valuations, with dominance in their field, and now they've become the ones doing the investing and acquiring for the next generation of tech businesses. We have almost none of that in Europe, and I think it's important to ask why. I don't believe we lack people with ideas, skills and entrepreneurial instincts, and that means something else is getting in the way.
  - jbverschoor 5y ago
    Name some in the EU
    - Silhouette 5y ago
      Some of what?
jeltz 5y ago
The issue is that there are a bunch of big is companies with way too much cash who can buy any potential competitor. I do not feel it matters much how they got that big. What we instead need to limit is their ability to buy competitors.
- Silhouette 5y ago
  I think both are important. There is a question of what we do to prevent any successful medium-sized European business becoming a small part of some huge US business. But there is also a question of how our entire entrepreneurial sector got so broken on this side of the Atlantic that such a huge imbalance arose in the first place. If we don't address the issues that caused that to happen once, surely it will tend to happen again sooner or later.
- axlee 5y ago
  It is, as always, an inequality issue. Sadly, the alternative is not acceptable in a neoliberal world: no european company is willing or able to pay up for a promising technology as much as Google, Apple or Amazon will, but nation-states definitely can.
- onion2k 5y ago
  If we stopped them buying competitors they'd just build their own competitor, and then the founders with the original idea would probably lose and nothing else would change. At least while FAANGs buy up their competitors the founders get an exit.

onion2k 5y ago

Of course you don't, but someone offering to make you a multi-millionaire is hard to say no to. I imagine. I've never been in the situation unfortunately.

throwaway12509 5y ago
Generally it's not you making the decision but some investor who needs to close out a 10y fund and can force the sale through some nasty term in the SHA. In a unicorn situation, the founder will generally take money off the table early and will be okay regardless. Just look at WeWork.
Silhouette 5y ago
It certainly is, but in the US there have apparently been enough incentives for some founders not to accept an offer at that level. Some of those founders have gone on to build their businesses up to billion-dollar valuations, with dominance in their field, and now they've become the ones doing the investing and acquiring for the next generation of tech businesses. We have almost none of that in Europe, and I think it's important to ask why. I don't believe we lack people with ideas, skills and entrepreneurial instincts, and that means something else is getting in the way.
- jbverschoor 5y ago
  Name some in the EU
  - Silhouette 5y ago
    Some of what?

jeltz 5y ago

The issue is that there are a bunch of big is companies with way too much cash who can buy any potential competitor. I do not feel it matters much how they got that big. What we instead need to limit is their ability to buy competitors.

Silhouette 5y ago
I think both are important. There is a question of what we do to prevent any successful medium-sized European business becoming a small part of some huge US business. But there is also a question of how our entire entrepreneurial sector got so broken on this side of the Atlantic that such a huge imbalance arose in the first place. If we don't address the issues that caused that to happen once, surely it will tend to happen again sooner or later.
axlee 5y ago
It is, as always, an inequality issue. Sadly, the alternative is not acceptable in a neoliberal world: no european company is willing or able to pay up for a promising technology as much as Google, Apple or Amazon will, but nation-states definitely can.
onion2k 5y ago
If we stopped them buying competitors they'd just build their own competitor, and then the founders with the original idea would probably lose and nothing else would change. At least while FAANGs buy up their competitors the founders get an exit.