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I bought Remarkable 2 and returned it sadly. It does one thing very well which is writing. But not a great tool for reading PDFs. When I figured pinch to zoom w

by vinni2 5y ago

I bought Remarkable 2 and returned it sadly. It does one thing very well which is writing. But not a great tool for reading PDFs. When I figured pinch to zoom was not possible that was it for me. It’s a really polished tool for wiring but they have a lot of room to improve for reading experience.

gspr 5y ago
Pinch zoom is available in PDFs now. I'm on 2.7, but I believe it was added in 2.6. It works really well. Of course it's far slower than on a normal tablet due to the e-ink screen, but it's definitely fine for me.
- szszrk 5y ago
  I think it's actually impressive speed-wise. Not a real tablet speed but in my case even large, graphics heavy documents work quite well. I'm surprised they pulled this one off.
  - gspr 5y ago
    Absolutely. I just added the comment because I've had some friends who are unfamiliar with e-ink screens expecting tablet behavior. I just refereed a research paper with complex (color!) graphics on the thing. It was an absolute breeze!
    - szszrk 5y ago
      Yeah, I'm on some facebook reMarkable groups and it's stunning how many people bought it without watching a single video from manufacturer. They though browser, video, dropbox/google drive/others will be available, or that it will integrate with their decade worth of notes from various services... Those tablet e-ink devices does some of that. reMarkable is just a notepad with very simple cloud sync to their cloud.
- vinni2 5y ago
  Ok I gave up too early then. Ah well I didn’t have patience.
infinitezest 5y ago
That's disappointing to hear. I've been on the fence about way to pick one of these up but I had heard that the reading experience was sub par. I have yet to find an e-ink tablet that's attractive enough to spend money on.
jessmartin 5y ago
That's interesting, because I read PDFs (and annotate) every single day. Pinch-to-zoom works great, and it's the best PDF reader I've experienced. Can't recommend highly enough.
nosianu 5y ago
As others have said, pinch to zoom works now. Although that only helps to zoom in to one spot, if I were to try using that to read a page where the font is too small, having to shift the page left and right while zoomed, it would be a nightmare to read a document. My gripe is I cannot switch the device to show a PDF in landscape mode. Then at least pretty much all documents' fonts would be large enough, if I use the height of the device for the width of the PDF. Then I would only have to scroll down and only after reading half a page. That would work well, scrolling left-right-left-right-.... while zoomed in does not, unless the page has two columns of text so that I don't have to scroll right-left-.... I use my RM2 mostly as epub reader. For the price - I got the preorder discount - it was the same or even lower as other pure readers of a similar size. The software does have some weaknesses, for example sometimes I have to edit the epubs and remove some CSS background color because it ends up black on dark gray (unreadable of course), or it has set defaults for font, line height and such settings and I cannot set new defaults so I end up setting those for each and every document I sync to it anew. Still, it's acceptable for me, it's just a few (now muscle memory) clicks. To sync I sometimes have to start the Windows app to which I added a document a second time before it uploads it to the cloud server. That too now is a muscle-memory action. I hope they fix it some day but it's not a deal breaker. I did a bit of writing and that just works and feels very good too. Other than the base use cases the software is very barebone. As others have pointed out, that's a goal. The device does everything I expect from it, which is just some basic writing and the epub reading. I can send webpages to the device (while it's online) by clicking an extension icon in the browser, which I do for RoyalRoad chapters, for example. WebToEpub creates epub files for entire Webnovels, which have to be uploaded using the Windows app though.
- vinni2 5y ago
  For me main use case is reading research articles annotate on it and sync it with my desktop and share it with my colleagues. Ideally I wanted a bibliography library tool like mendeley or zotero and keep all my annotations and notes synced. But that is far from possible on any e-ink tablet so far I have tried.
  - Terretta 5y ago
auggierose 5y ago
I bought it as well and returned it. It is just too small for reading PDFs comfortably.

by vinni2 5y ago

gspr 5y ago

Pinch zoom is available in PDFs now. I'm on 2.7, but I believe it was added in 2.6. It works really well. Of course it's far slower than on a normal tablet due to the e-ink screen, but it's definitely fine for me.

szszrk 5y ago
I think it's actually impressive speed-wise. Not a real tablet speed but in my case even large, graphics heavy documents work quite well. I'm surprised they pulled this one off.
- gspr 5y ago
  Absolutely. I just added the comment because I've had some friends who are unfamiliar with e-ink screens expecting tablet behavior. I just refereed a research paper with complex (color!) graphics on the thing. It was an absolute breeze!
  - szszrk 5y ago
    Yeah, I'm on some facebook reMarkable groups and it's stunning how many people bought it without watching a single video from manufacturer. They though browser, video, dropbox/google drive/others will be available, or that it will integrate with their decade worth of notes from various services... Those tablet e-ink devices does some of that. reMarkable is just a notepad with very simple cloud sync to their cloud.
vinni2 5y ago
Ok I gave up too early then. Ah well I didn’t have patience.

infinitezest 5y ago

That's disappointing to hear. I've been on the fence about way to pick one of these up but I had heard that the reading experience was sub par. I have yet to find an e-ink tablet that's attractive enough to spend money on.

jessmartin 5y ago

That's interesting, because I read PDFs (and annotate) every single day. Pinch-to-zoom works great, and it's the best PDF reader I've experienced. Can't recommend highly enough.

nosianu 5y ago

As others have said, pinch to zoom works now. Although that only helps to zoom in to one spot, if I were to try using that to read a page where the font is too small, having to shift the page left and right while zoomed, it would be a nightmare to read a document. My gripe is I cannot switch the device to show a PDF in landscape mode. Then at least pretty much all documents' fonts would be large enough, if I use the height of the device for the width of the PDF. Then I would only have to scroll down and only after reading half a page. That would work well, scrolling left-right-left-right-.... while zoomed in does not, unless the page has two columns of text so that I don't have to scroll right-left-.... I use my RM2 mostly as epub reader. For the price - I got the preorder discount - it was the same or even lower as other pure readers of a similar size. The software does have some weaknesses, for example sometimes I have to edit the epubs and remove some CSS background color because it ends up black on dark gray (unreadable of course), or it has set defaults for font, line height and such settings and I cannot set new defaults so I end up setting those for each and every document I sync to it anew. Still, it's acceptable for me, it's just a few (now muscle memory) clicks. To sync I sometimes have to start the Windows app to which I added a document a second time before it uploads it to the cloud server. That too now is a muscle-memory action. I hope they fix it some day but it's not a deal breaker. I did a bit of writing and that just works and feels very good too. Other than the base use cases the software is very barebone. As others have pointed out, that's a goal. The device does everything I expect from it, which is just some basic writing and the epub reading. I can send webpages to the device (while it's online) by clicking an extension icon in the browser, which I do for RoyalRoad chapters, for example. WebToEpub creates epub files for entire Webnovels, which have to be uploaded using the Windows app though.

vinni2 5y ago
For me main use case is reading research articles annotate on it and sync it with my desktop and share it with my colleagues. Ideally I wanted a bibliography library tool like mendeley or zotero and keep all my annotations and notes synced. But that is far from possible on any e-ink tablet so far I have tried.
- Terretta 5y ago

auggierose 5y ago

I bought it as well and returned it. It is just too small for reading PDFs comfortably.