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Ah yes, the country of the European Union

by uhorb 5y ago

afiori 5y ago
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kostyal 5y ago
it's a joke you pedant
r8d7u3h3 5y ago
Frankly, given the primacy of EU law it's strange to me that EU members feel like they really are countries anymore.
- uhorb 5y ago
  From my perspective, EU law does not play the most dominant role in everyday life. Apart from the big (or super silly) changes, it’s often more of a news maker. Take that plus big cultural differences (most notably: not being able to understand each other’s language), and you get a feeling of own nationalities.
- jokethrowaway 5y ago
  There are still so many cultural and legislative differences between countries that people don't feel Europeans, they identify with the individual country. The UK was definitely the country which stood out the most in EU, so after Brexit, the EU lost one furthest away country in its block, in terms of diversity. EU law cover stuff you hardly run into. Sure, you have euros everywhere but they don't regulate how much taxes you pay or how your national health care is managed. All is fine until they start regulating on things that matter. Immigration is definitely one of the first sector where people started noticing they're in the EU, because they're unhappy with the results.
- esperent 5y ago
  I'm guessing you're not European from this comment. This is not meant as an attack; it just seems like your comment lacks the perspective of actually living in the EU. EU law makes news. It doesn't make many obvious appearances in day to day life when you're living there, however.
Der_Einzige 5y ago
One of the resolutions that I frequently make competitive high school debaters debate about is a proposal for the EU to federalize and form the united states of Europe. Honestly, the EU really should try this. African leaders are also trying to form a United States of Africa, and I wouldn't be surprised if something like it happens by the 2030s or 2040s... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Africa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Africa

Ah yes, the country of the European Union

by uhorb 5y ago

Ah yes, the country of the European Union

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kostyal 5y ago

it's a joke you pedant

r8d7u3h3 5y ago

Frankly, given the primacy of EU law it's strange to me that EU members feel like they really are countries anymore.

uhorb 5y ago
From my perspective, EU law does not play the most dominant role in everyday life. Apart from the big (or super silly) changes, it’s often more of a news maker. Take that plus big cultural differences (most notably: not being able to understand each other’s language), and you get a feeling of own nationalities.
jokethrowaway 5y ago
There are still so many cultural and legislative differences between countries that people don't feel Europeans, they identify with the individual country. The UK was definitely the country which stood out the most in EU, so after Brexit, the EU lost one furthest away country in its block, in terms of diversity. EU law cover stuff you hardly run into. Sure, you have euros everywhere but they don't regulate how much taxes you pay or how your national health care is managed. All is fine until they start regulating on things that matter. Immigration is definitely one of the first sector where people started noticing they're in the EU, because they're unhappy with the results.
esperent 5y ago
I'm guessing you're not European from this comment. This is not meant as an attack; it just seems like your comment lacks the perspective of actually living in the EU. EU law makes news. It doesn't make many obvious appearances in day to day life when you're living there, however.

Der_Einzige 5y ago

One of the resolutions that I frequently make competitive high school debaters debate about is a proposal for the EU to federalize and form the united states of Europe. Honestly, the EU really should try this. African leaders are also trying to form a United States of Africa, and I wouldn't be surprised if something like it happens by the 2030s or 2040s... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Africa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Africa