There are a lot of places with plenty of deadfall and fires are fine too. They usually are lower traffic, and the season when you'd want this, fire and condensa

There are a lot of places with plenty of deadfall and fires are fine too. They usually are lower traffic, and the season when you'd want this, fire and condensation are both non issues. For those other places my UL buddy ( both he and his gear are UL) uses a home made tyvek bivy for every trip. His half pad is a therma-rest, but he likes that bivy better than anything he can buy.