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> Every poll of Americans and religions shows Christianity as by far the most popular choice. There is simply no way to square your idea that nonreligious is th

> Every poll of Americans and religions shows Christianity as by far the most popular choice. There is simply no way to square your idea that nonreligious is the default when over 70% of Americans identify as Christian.[0] GP is talking about representation in film. That's what this whole subthread is about.

jonathankoren 5y ago
When you're the default, you have representation in all media, even without it being explicitly stated, because the audience already assumes it. Why? Because there's no reason to believe that the character is anything except the most common case in society. Some would even describe being the most common case and not having to explicitly be called out for representation as privileged.
- alentist 5y ago
  > When you're the default, you have representation in all media Not true. > there's no reason to believe that the character is anything except the most common case in society Not true. You are simply throwing out baseless assertions.
  - jonathankoren 5y ago
    I’m going to go out on a limb, and guess you’re a straight white male from a middle class or upper middle class background, raised in a home that celebrates Christian high holidays, and have no major disabilities. I can tell this, because you’ve never considered what representation means to you. You crow about how being the default isn’t representation, but you have nothing to back that statement up except your hurt feelings, because it doesn’t even hold up to even a cursorily examination of popular culture, or history as it’s commonly taught.
    - alentist 5y ago
      > I’m going to go out on a limb, and guess Wrong. Looks like your psychic powers need a lot of work. But thanks for further weakening your "case" with more baseless assertions. Furthermore, I checked your profile and it looks like this describes your background. Ironic. > I can tell this, because you’ve never considered what representation means to you. 1. This is a non-sequitur. 2. This is just some brazen projection on your part, as your comments in this discussion make clear. You're the one who comically equated population statistics with arts & media representation, which proves you haven't given much thought to the matter at all. > how being the default isn’t representation The point is that it isn't the default in film. Maybe take a deep breath and try reading the thread again? > you have nothing to back that statement up except your hurt feelings, because it doesn’t even hold up to even a cursorily examination More brazen projection on your part, given that you've been utterly unable to substantiate any of your baseless claims, despite being prompted multiple (!) times to do so, not just by me. > it doesn’t even hold up to even a cursorily examination of popular culture, or history Oh boy. Are you really going to claim that arts & media representation has always reflected population statistics? Your claims just keep getting more bizarre.
      - jonathankoren 5y ago
        I do love how you’re just talking in circles. You must think of yourself as very smart, but your refusal to actually engage in the discussion shows you’re just a proudly ignorant troll trying to culture war to stoke a sense of victimization. I’d wish you’d luck, but I honestly don’t care about irrelevant people.
        alentist 5y ago
        More name-calling? I accept your concession.

jonathankoren 5y ago

When you're the default, you have representation in all media, even without it being explicitly stated, because the audience already assumes it. Why? Because there's no reason to believe that the character is anything except the most common case in society. Some would even describe being the most common case and not having to explicitly be called out for representation as privileged.

alentist 5y ago
> When you're the default, you have representation in all media Not true. > there's no reason to believe that the character is anything except the most common case in society Not true. You are simply throwing out baseless assertions.
- jonathankoren 5y ago
  I’m going to go out on a limb, and guess you’re a straight white male from a middle class or upper middle class background, raised in a home that celebrates Christian high holidays, and have no major disabilities. I can tell this, because you’ve never considered what representation means to you. You crow about how being the default isn’t representation, but you have nothing to back that statement up except your hurt feelings, because it doesn’t even hold up to even a cursorily examination of popular culture, or history as it’s commonly taught.
  - alentist 5y ago
    > I’m going to go out on a limb, and guess Wrong. Looks like your psychic powers need a lot of work. But thanks for further weakening your "case" with more baseless assertions. Furthermore, I checked your profile and it looks like this describes your background. Ironic. > I can tell this, because you’ve never considered what representation means to you. 1. This is a non-sequitur. 2. This is just some brazen projection on your part, as your comments in this discussion make clear. You're the one who comically equated population statistics with arts & media representation, which proves you haven't given much thought to the matter at all. > how being the default isn’t representation The point is that it isn't the default in film. Maybe take a deep breath and try reading the thread again? > you have nothing to back that statement up except your hurt feelings, because it doesn’t even hold up to even a cursorily examination More brazen projection on your part, given that you've been utterly unable to substantiate any of your baseless claims, despite being prompted multiple (!) times to do so, not just by me. > it doesn’t even hold up to even a cursorily examination of popular culture, or history Oh boy. Are you really going to claim that arts & media representation has always reflected population statistics? Your claims just keep getting more bizarre.
    - jonathankoren 5y ago
      I do love how you’re just talking in circles. You must think of yourself as very smart, but your refusal to actually engage in the discussion shows you’re just a proudly ignorant troll trying to culture war to stoke a sense of victimization. I’d wish you’d luck, but I honestly don’t care about irrelevant people.
      - alentist 5y ago
        More name-calling? I accept your concession.