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As a programmer, I am hoping the low-code future comes true. Many of the comments here seem critical (and rightly so). It is naturally to be critical as the n

by quanto 5y ago

As a programmer, I am hoping the low-code future comes true. Many of the comments here seem critical (and rightly so). It is naturally to be critical as the no-code/low-code approach overpromised before, and its hypothetical success (if ever) will threaten the job security of the many in the HN crowd. However, the existence of low-code tools means that coders can focus more on the complex problems and/or work with these tools on a higher abstraction plane. This sounds like a win to me, and this is how many technical fields advance -- increasing productivity by automating and abstracting away the lower-level tasks. There is nothing that prevents a programmer from using a low-code tool. Maybe though a DSL API?

EvilEy3 5y ago
YAML developer? No thanks, take a look at DevOps to get a peak of how it looks like.
strken 5y ago
The problem with low-code isn't that it's going to take away my job, it's that my job is going to get harder because low-code tools don't make it possible to do every task with code. If you're stuck using a closed-source tool that gates certain functionality behind a UI and doesn't provide an API to automate it, then you've got to either replace the tool entirely, or put a human in the loop doing a repetitive task.
midasz 5y ago
This is exactly how I feel, I just wonder if they can work together? If a company wants some basic CRUD / form / report functionality, please use a tool to build it - it's absolutely mind numbing to develop. But what if it needs to integrate into another system, or needs to be combined with an external source and produce results (trying to name things possibly outside of the tools scope) - how can we as developers hook into it? Are they stuck with the tool unable to fulfill their business needs / weird hybrid things / move away from the tool? It's gonna be interesting when it happens.
qualudeheart 5y ago
I hope every single low code app either fails or somehow increases the demand for real programmers. Programming is one of the few jobs that e.g. autistic people can do and still earn a living wage. It is a tragedy to see it replaced by another opportunity for rent seeking and grift by “low code” app companies.
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by quanto 5y ago

EvilEy3 5y ago

YAML developer? No thanks, take a look at DevOps to get a peak of how it looks like.

strken 5y ago

The problem with low-code isn't that it's going to take away my job, it's that my job is going to get harder because low-code tools don't make it possible to do every task with code. If you're stuck using a closed-source tool that gates certain functionality behind a UI and doesn't provide an API to automate it, then you've got to either replace the tool entirely, or put a human in the loop doing a repetitive task.

midasz 5y ago

This is exactly how I feel, I just wonder if they can work together? If a company wants some basic CRUD / form / report functionality, please use a tool to build it - it's absolutely mind numbing to develop. But what if it needs to integrate into another system, or needs to be combined with an external source and produce results (trying to name things possibly outside of the tools scope) - how can we as developers hook into it? Are they stuck with the tool unable to fulfill their business needs / weird hybrid things / move away from the tool? It's gonna be interesting when it happens.

qualudeheart 5y ago

I hope every single low code app either fails or somehow increases the demand for real programmers. Programming is one of the few jobs that e.g. autistic people can do and still earn a living wage. It is a tragedy to see it replaced by another opportunity for rent seeking and grift by “low code” app companies.

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