5 ms·

Not sure I 100% agree. Commercializing creates jobs, tax income, and encourages the best and brightest to focus on the issue. Many researchers in academia are s

Not sure I 100% agree. Commercializing creates jobs, tax income, and encourages the best and brightest to focus on the issue. Many researchers in academia are still monetary driven. Those journals “peer review” and provide a quality bar for the content. The government didn’t cover the journal cost but instead covered the research cost. Your asking for the government to additionally have its own scientific publication journal that is free. Not a bad idea, but also maybe not the best of ideas.

mannerheim 5y ago
> Commercializing creates jobs, tax income, and encourages the best and brightest to focus on the issue. There's nothing preventing the fruits of research from being commercialised just because that research has been made public domain. > Your asking for the government to additionally have its own scientific publication journal that is free. Not a bad idea, but also maybe not the best of ideas. There is already a similar requirement for NIH grants. Research produced with NIH grants has to be made available on PubMed Central.
- bushbaba 5y ago
  Pubmed is accessible to the world. Not just American entities. Wouldn’t it benefit America to ensure funded research is used to benefit the American interest. Not saying it’s right but the system I believe is currently WAI.
  - mannerheim 5y ago
    Well, that does it, I suppose. We can't require that public money goes to actually benefiting the public because God forbid people outside of America might also benefit from it.
  - cycomanic 5y ago
    Research is one of the most international activities. Trying to restrict it to only be open to your nation will quickly land you in a spot where you quickly fall behind.
new299 5y ago
I've worked almost exclusively with university spinouts. I would say in almost all cases the foundational approach/IP has not been taken forward. New IP was developed, which was more suitable for building a commercial product. I'd actually be interested in any examples where university IP has successfully been taken forward (particularly in Biotech). Mostly the universities provide effectively training, and a background of scientific techniques which can help build companies... but specific IP... not so much.
- unishark 5y ago
  Universities also add prestige and provide protection for the IP. It may be a good deal or not depending on the price.
chalst 5y ago
> Many researchers in academia are still monetary driven. "Money driven" suggests that is the primary motivation, although I'm not sure that is what you meant: I think that's fairly rare in academia. Money is a consideration for most academics, but prestige generally is a much more important driver.

mannerheim 5y ago

> Commercializing creates jobs, tax income, and encourages the best and brightest to focus on the issue. There's nothing preventing the fruits of research from being commercialised just because that research has been made public domain. > Your asking for the government to additionally have its own scientific publication journal that is free. Not a bad idea, but also maybe not the best of ideas. There is already a similar requirement for NIH grants. Research produced with NIH grants has to be made available on PubMed Central.

bushbaba 5y ago
Pubmed is accessible to the world. Not just American entities. Wouldn’t it benefit America to ensure funded research is used to benefit the American interest. Not saying it’s right but the system I believe is currently WAI.
- mannerheim 5y ago
  Well, that does it, I suppose. We can't require that public money goes to actually benefiting the public because God forbid people outside of America might also benefit from it.
- cycomanic 5y ago
  Research is one of the most international activities. Trying to restrict it to only be open to your nation will quickly land you in a spot where you quickly fall behind.

new299 5y ago

I've worked almost exclusively with university spinouts. I would say in almost all cases the foundational approach/IP has not been taken forward. New IP was developed, which was more suitable for building a commercial product. I'd actually be interested in any examples where university IP has successfully been taken forward (particularly in Biotech). Mostly the universities provide effectively training, and a background of scientific techniques which can help build companies... but specific IP... not so much.

unishark 5y ago
Universities also add prestige and provide protection for the IP. It may be a good deal or not depending on the price.

chalst 5y ago

> Many researchers in academia are still monetary driven. "Money driven" suggests that is the primary motivation, although I'm not sure that is what you meant: I think that's fairly rare in academia. Money is a consideration for most academics, but prestige generally is a much more important driver.