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That may be so, but part of my gripe with leetcode is that people tend to grind for many months to "get in shape" for job interviews. That's just not reasonabl

That may be so, but part of my gripe with leetcode is that people tend to grind for many months to "get in shape" for job interviews. That's just not reasonable to expect of anyone, let alone those with families or other responsibilities. It's not like there aren't benefits to this process. Once you've buffed up, you're prepared for most major tech interviews. Common formats have their advantages. That said, this format is just too expensive, and has poor predictive power.

xyzelement 5y ago
// "get in shape" for job interviews. That's just not reasonable to expect of anyone, let alone those with families or other responsibilities. and // Once you've buffed up, you're prepared for most major tech interviews. and // has poor predictive power. If "acquiring skill X" is broadly valuable (as you're saying in this case) then your ability to work on acquiring it is predictive of your success.
- pianoben 5y ago
  Sure, it shows that you can apply yourself to a task and finish it. That's also what a college degree shows, but at least there you learn something useful. Come to think of it, that's what any stint over a year or two at a company can show, too. It's not predictive of the traits that mark a successful IC in my experience. I'm talking about areas like project planning, professionalism, large-scale system design, personal ownership, meticulousness, etc. Curiosity. Some of those might tangentially be covered by leetcode but I guarantee you important stuff isn't. Everyone I've seen to fail, either via PIP or otherwise, has cracked these interviews. I've seen many fail over the years. Even worse, I've seen many whom I know would be strong performers, wash out because they got the wrong DP problem that day. Where's the benefit in a regime like this? The company loses and good candidates lose, too.

xyzelement 5y ago

// "get in shape" for job interviews. That's just not reasonable to expect of anyone, let alone those with families or other responsibilities. and // Once you've buffed up, you're prepared for most major tech interviews. and // has poor predictive power. If "acquiring skill X" is broadly valuable (as you're saying in this case) then your ability to work on acquiring it is predictive of your success.

pianoben 5y ago
Sure, it shows that you can apply yourself to a task and finish it. That's also what a college degree shows, but at least there you learn something useful. Come to think of it, that's what any stint over a year or two at a company can show, too. It's not predictive of the traits that mark a successful IC in my experience. I'm talking about areas like project planning, professionalism, large-scale system design, personal ownership, meticulousness, etc. Curiosity. Some of those might tangentially be covered by leetcode but I guarantee you important stuff isn't. Everyone I've seen to fail, either via PIP or otherwise, has cracked these interviews. I've seen many fail over the years. Even worse, I've seen many whom I know would be strong performers, wash out because they got the wrong DP problem that day. Where's the benefit in a regime like this? The company loses and good candidates lose, too.