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There seems to be a wave of no code hype, much of it coming from the VC community, and I’m baffled as to what has happened to convince people it’s going to work

by thom 5y ago

There seems to be a wave of no code hype, much of it coming from the VC community, and I’m baffled as to what has happened to convince people it’s going to work this time. Is there some breakthrough tool I’m not aware of? Or is it just like this article, a bunch of pitch decks saying “if we can take just 80% of the tech market we’ll be zillionaires”?

petra 5y ago
Besides serious growth, he big low-code companies posted some impressive case-studies. For example Outsystems's software was used to build a hospital management system, commercially. So they've got a a lot of deployed software for a few years, and some of it is really complex. And it seems to work. No huge negative PR AFAIK. And there's ton of demand. I do wonder what's they're breakthrough though.
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MathYouF 5y ago
I believe GPT-3 being able to convert descriptions of functions or designs into semi-functional code is what has some excited. It's certainly the strongest argument and reason to hope it could be different this time that I know of. I'm skeptical but come from a generative AI background so I wouldn't underestimate it will be able to do things previously unaccomplished by making templates in the past.
- qualudeheart 5y ago
  How does GPT-3 differ from a gui based no code tool? I’ve tried to find that out but dunno. Do you have an idea?
  - MathYouF 5y ago
    GPT-3 does only thing, predict the next character based on the previous n characters. The nuance of the context (previous n characters) and the quality of the prediction(s) (following character, a function of gpt-3 you can repeat by just concatenating its last prediction to the previous n characters) is what has significantly improved. It has now learned on a significant amount of the writing available on the internet. Which includes guides on writing code, stack overflow, and github repos. So one is able to write something that looks like a python comment // This function adds two numbers And the following n character predictions of gpt-3 will with some unreliability spit out the python code for that function as its predictions def add(x, y): return x+y This has been shown to work with simple descriptions of pages, with it returning html with css embedded that matches that description.
- thom 5y ago
  I had not put these two things together, thank you.
tyingq 5y ago
"No code" opens up more purchases direct from the business groups at a company, rather than through a bureaucratic IT department. I am not surprised that it's being pushed hard.

by thom 5y ago

petra 5y ago

Besides serious growth, he big low-code companies posted some impressive case-studies. For example Outsystems's software was used to build a hospital management system, commercially. So they've got a a lot of deployed software for a few years, and some of it is really complex. And it seems to work. No huge negative PR AFAIK. And there's ton of demand. I do wonder what's they're breakthrough though.

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MathYouF 5y ago

I believe GPT-3 being able to convert descriptions of functions or designs into semi-functional code is what has some excited. It's certainly the strongest argument and reason to hope it could be different this time that I know of. I'm skeptical but come from a generative AI background so I wouldn't underestimate it will be able to do things previously unaccomplished by making templates in the past.

qualudeheart 5y ago
How does GPT-3 differ from a gui based no code tool? I’ve tried to find that out but dunno. Do you have an idea?
- MathYouF 5y ago
  GPT-3 does only thing, predict the next character based on the previous n characters. The nuance of the context (previous n characters) and the quality of the prediction(s) (following character, a function of gpt-3 you can repeat by just concatenating its last prediction to the previous n characters) is what has significantly improved. It has now learned on a significant amount of the writing available on the internet. Which includes guides on writing code, stack overflow, and github repos. So one is able to write something that looks like a python comment // This function adds two numbers And the following n character predictions of gpt-3 will with some unreliability spit out the python code for that function as its predictions def add(x, y): return x+y This has been shown to work with simple descriptions of pages, with it returning html with css embedded that matches that description.
thom 5y ago
I had not put these two things together, thank you.

tyingq 5y ago

"No code" opens up more purchases direct from the business groups at a company, rather than through a bureaucratic IT department. I am not surprised that it's being pushed hard.