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> Her lawyer, Alison Grinter Allen, said in a statement that Winner and her family are working to “heal the trauma of incarceration and build back the years los

> Her lawyer, Alison Grinter Allen, said in a statement that Winner and her family are working to “heal the trauma of incarceration and build back the years lost.” She looks tough in the photo from the article, but I remember back when she was arrested she looked so young and innocent [1]. I wonder how prison has changed/traumatized her. Her sentence always seemed a little excessive to me. [1] https://www.chron.com/national/slideshow/10-things-to-know-about-Reality-Winner-146242.php https://www.chron.com/national/slideshow/10-things-to-know-a...

Cullinet 5y ago
Excessive sentencing, as I think happened here, I believe goes hand in hand with political verdicts because the judges are required to ignore any mitigating factors out of hand entirely in justification of their decision. I've just seen the same steeling of physical appearance happen to friends, sadly. My attorney for one. I got accidentally caught up in something that has led to situations such as the rewriting of articles on globally highly trusted news sites. Without trying to mitigate anything, any man or woman who is confronted with the true disparity of actual power, push comes to shove, reacts like this. A more cynical view that I could imagine my father coming up with would be this is merely proof of how easy life is today. My father was born into no question about it poverty in 1907? The experience of the great depression turned him into a notable community banker on his uncanny ability to correctly determine the credit worthiness of mortgage borrowers with virtually zero statistical data. Left school at 14, night school, ended up getting roasted on TV for his political views of keeping profit motive out of housing finance. This is my prime example of comparative social mobility, rather than just a family anecdote. Victor Neiderhoffer in his book The Education of A Speculator, published in time to describe the precise way he went bust during the Thailand currency collapse, is excellent description of what early century Brighton Beach and environs poverty and opportunities looked and felt like. Neiderhoffer sold everything he owned to scrape back to make his investors whole, took him twenty years while appearing to do a crackpot number as a very difficult to understand journalist complete with cult following, but I never believed that, some people are forever shaped by experiences of poverty, even if indirectly, and abhor to the point of physical intolerance, any idea of going down as a historical destroyer of capital. Just as the modern economy has created a incredible new complexity in between anyone less than fortunate, and a liveable (ie not life curtailing) middle class (the American definition of economic lifestyle, European class ideas are too "nuanced" to put it politely), there has created a incredible burden of legal complexity bearing down indiscriminately on simple citizens and more than ever those among us naively convinced of the acceptance and value of civic virtues.
piyh 5y ago
I wonder how much of that toughness is context of instagram shots vs a candid of someone in an orange jumpsuit. She probably also had a lot more time to work out.
steve76 5y ago
??? Didn't she fly the Predator? And drone strikes went up like 100x because she had a youth fixation on Arab culture and knew everything? That's funny. You're some special ops team complaining about the lack of air support. All of a sudden, there's 40 drone strikes a day. And you want to see who, and it's her. She should be Exhibit A in the case of "leave people alone". You think you're going to conquer the world, and something comes out of the shadow that knows more about your own world than you do. It's like waking up the Grendel. Letting her out might not be a good thing. ex-Soviets and terrorists, two sides of the same coin. Probably wasn't leaking info for "the public trust." More like going after enemies, and now with the border wide open, draw them in. I suggest viewing this like a small but bright red spider in a huge web deep in a dark hot tropical cave. Not like intelligence agencies create fictitious people.

Cullinet 5y ago

Excessive sentencing, as I think happened here, I believe goes hand in hand with political verdicts because the judges are required to ignore any mitigating factors out of hand entirely in justification of their decision. I've just seen the same steeling of physical appearance happen to friends, sadly. My attorney for one. I got accidentally caught up in something that has led to situations such as the rewriting of articles on globally highly trusted news sites. Without trying to mitigate anything, any man or woman who is confronted with the true disparity of actual power, push comes to shove, reacts like this. A more cynical view that I could imagine my father coming up with would be this is merely proof of how easy life is today. My father was born into no question about it poverty in 1907? The experience of the great depression turned him into a notable community banker on his uncanny ability to correctly determine the credit worthiness of mortgage borrowers with virtually zero statistical data. Left school at 14, night school, ended up getting roasted on TV for his political views of keeping profit motive out of housing finance. This is my prime example of comparative social mobility, rather than just a family anecdote. Victor Neiderhoffer in his book The Education of A Speculator, published in time to describe the precise way he went bust during the Thailand currency collapse, is excellent description of what early century Brighton Beach and environs poverty and opportunities looked and felt like. Neiderhoffer sold everything he owned to scrape back to make his investors whole, took him twenty years while appearing to do a crackpot number as a very difficult to understand journalist complete with cult following, but I never believed that, some people are forever shaped by experiences of poverty, even if indirectly, and abhor to the point of physical intolerance, any idea of going down as a historical destroyer of capital. Just as the modern economy has created a incredible new complexity in between anyone less than fortunate, and a liveable (ie not life curtailing) middle class (the American definition of economic lifestyle, European class ideas are too "nuanced" to put it politely), there has created a incredible burden of legal complexity bearing down indiscriminately on simple citizens and more than ever those among us naively convinced of the acceptance and value of civic virtues.

piyh 5y ago

I wonder how much of that toughness is context of instagram shots vs a candid of someone in an orange jumpsuit. She probably also had a lot more time to work out.

steve76 5y ago

??? Didn't she fly the Predator? And drone strikes went up like 100x because she had a youth fixation on Arab culture and knew everything? That's funny. You're some special ops team complaining about the lack of air support. All of a sudden, there's 40 drone strikes a day. And you want to see who, and it's her. She should be Exhibit A in the case of "leave people alone". You think you're going to conquer the world, and something comes out of the shadow that knows more about your own world than you do. It's like waking up the Grendel. Letting her out might not be a good thing. ex-Soviets and terrorists, two sides of the same coin. Probably wasn't leaking info for "the public trust." More like going after enemies, and now with the border wide open, draw them in. I suggest viewing this like a small but bright red spider in a huge web deep in a dark hot tropical cave. Not like intelligence agencies create fictitious people.