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>Anyway yeah, I'm a centrist and it's NOT because I'm trying to be neutral > You aren't being neutral. My claim is that I'm not neutral and that I'm also not

by anm89 5y ago

>Anyway yeah, I'm a centrist and it's NOT because I'm trying to be neutral > You aren't being neutral. My claim is that I'm not neutral and that I'm also not trying to be neutral. >If your goal is to never be critiqued because you can't stand to be wrong, Speaking of strawmen.

ABCLAW 5y ago
It's a bit tough to understand how you reconcile this position with your original paragraph. >Attacking the center is always the craziest narrative to me. It's saying: not only is it not okay to disagree with me and be on the other side, it's also not okay to not passionately agree with my exact side. The only right way to view these complex issues is to sign your name to join my party and then hold the party line, and everything else is unethical. I can't imagine a more obnoxious political viewpoint than that. Your position is that holding a position and critiquing those that don't hold it is the most obnoxious political viewpoint to take. How can you adopt and advocate for any political position, then, other than a 'non-position' which doesn't actually adopt any stance?
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  What's hard to understand? Picture a spectrum with three points labeled "left", "center", and "right" respectively. Each point is a "position", none of them are neutral (because they all exist on the spectrum).
  - ABCLAW 5y ago
    Because the center has to be qualitatively different from the others in order to escape the cycle of critique presented in the original argument. Otherwise, why is critique of the center different from attacking the left or the right? Why would attacking the center be the "craziest narrative"? The OP's post has a hidden premise, otherwise it does not lead to his conclusion.
    - throwaway894345 5y ago
      > Otherwise, why is critique of the center different from attacking the left or the right? Presmably the OP meant "it's crazy to attack the center with equal fervor that one applies to the opposite extreme". E.g., leftists attacking everyone to their right as uniformly "far right", using language like "white supremacist" and "literal Nazi" to describe anyone who is not far-left, etc.

by anm89 5y ago

ABCLAW 5y ago

It's a bit tough to understand how you reconcile this position with your original paragraph. >Attacking the center is always the craziest narrative to me. It's saying: not only is it not okay to disagree with me and be on the other side, it's also not okay to not passionately agree with my exact side. The only right way to view these complex issues is to sign your name to join my party and then hold the party line, and everything else is unethical. I can't imagine a more obnoxious political viewpoint than that. Your position is that holding a position and critiquing those that don't hold it is the most obnoxious political viewpoint to take. How can you adopt and advocate for any political position, then, other than a 'non-position' which doesn't actually adopt any stance?

throwaway894345 5y ago
What's hard to understand? Picture a spectrum with three points labeled "left", "center", and "right" respectively. Each point is a "position", none of them are neutral (because they all exist on the spectrum).
- ABCLAW 5y ago
  Because the center has to be qualitatively different from the others in order to escape the cycle of critique presented in the original argument. Otherwise, why is critique of the center different from attacking the left or the right? Why would attacking the center be the "craziest narrative"? The OP's post has a hidden premise, otherwise it does not lead to his conclusion.
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    > Otherwise, why is critique of the center different from attacking the left or the right? Presmably the OP meant "it's crazy to attack the center with equal fervor that one applies to the opposite extreme". E.g., leftists attacking everyone to their right as uniformly "far right", using language like "white supremacist" and "literal Nazi" to describe anyone who is not far-left, etc.