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> Is it the official policy of the home-assistant project that their software should not be packaged by NixOS? I have the impression that it is the policy of t

> Is it the official policy of the home-assistant project that their software should not be packaged by NixOS? I have the impression that it is the policy of the home-assistant project that their software should not be run in any way not supported by them, and not redistributed by any distribution or other third party. They're somewhat actively hostile against people not following that.

simonw 5y ago
In which case I think that's the story here - this isn't so much about frenck v.s. NixOS as it is about home-assistant v.s. repackaging. Though if that's the case it seems misleading of frenck that he hasn't clarified that this is a home-assistant policy in any of his comments around this.
ticviking 5y ago
Why is it that projects grant rights to users and then are hostile to us using those rights?
- rpdillon 5y ago
  This is what really confuses me! HA/frenk clearly are developing open source software, so they grant downstream users all the rights that go with that, including distribution rights. So far, so good, until folks actually leverage the rights frenk handed them and he shows up and says "Please respect my wishes and don't distribute my open source code." I can see how this is very confusing for a packaging team. It sounds like the "correct" approach here is for frenk (and HA?) to signal this lack of flexibility up front and stop distributing HA under an open source license. This will at least prevent other projects from investing in a packaging effort only to be asked to stop somewhere along the way.
  - ticviking 5y ago
    If they stop releasing it under an open source license then they lose access to all the free infrastructure that various companies and communities are providing.
    - aequitas 5y ago
      You can’t have your cake and eat it too. There are also a lot of contributors who might have an opinion about closing the license: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/graphs/contributors https://github.com/home-assistant/core/graphs/contributors

simonw 5y ago

In which case I think that's the story here - this isn't so much about frenck v.s. NixOS as it is about home-assistant v.s. repackaging. Though if that's the case it seems misleading of frenck that he hasn't clarified that this is a home-assistant policy in any of his comments around this.

ticviking 5y ago

Why is it that projects grant rights to users and then are hostile to us using those rights?

rpdillon 5y ago
This is what really confuses me! HA/frenk clearly are developing open source software, so they grant downstream users all the rights that go with that, including distribution rights. So far, so good, until folks actually leverage the rights frenk handed them and he shows up and says "Please respect my wishes and don't distribute my open source code." I can see how this is very confusing for a packaging team. It sounds like the "correct" approach here is for frenk (and HA?) to signal this lack of flexibility up front and stop distributing HA under an open source license. This will at least prevent other projects from investing in a packaging effort only to be asked to stop somewhere along the way.
- ticviking 5y ago
  If they stop releasing it under an open source license then they lose access to all the free infrastructure that various companies and communities are providing.
  - aequitas 5y ago
    You can’t have your cake and eat it too. There are also a lot of contributors who might have an opinion about closing the license: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/graphs/contributors https://github.com/home-assistant/core/graphs/contributors