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She can now pay for it? The fun part is the claim that Google Workspace was designed around security and privacy, followed by a screenshot of Gmail, which until

by josefx 5y ago

She can now pay for it? The fun part is the claim that Google Workspace was designed around security and privacy, followed by a screenshot of Gmail, which until 2017 actively scanned mails for ad personalization. I can't wait for McDonalds to announce that it was founded on the principle of a healthy vegan diet.

skybrian 5y ago
I don’t think Gmail advertisers could track you unless you actually clicked on an ad? By today’s standards that’s actually pretty good.
- xwolfi 5y ago
  But is google an advertiser too at this point ?
  - sellyme 5y ago
    They absolutely are, but "if you use Gmail then Google has access to all your emails" is not exactly a shocking security violation.
xxpor 5y ago
Gmail doesn't scan emails any more?
- ruined 5y ago
  Gmail certainly does scan and process language in email, because they generate reply suggestions, and who knows what else behind the scenes.
- Laremere 5y ago
  They no longer do any ad personalization based on the contents of your email, and AFAIK, they never did for paying customers. Obviously, other systems process the contents of your email, eg spam filter, the frontend displaying the email to you, and I assume the government can get access through legal warrants (the ethics of the secrecy of such actions is a different debate - Google is required to follow the law).
  - xxpor 5y ago
    Yeah, makes sense. I just hadn't heard about the ad change.
    - judge2020 5y ago
      For reference: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in-the-enterprise-g-suites-gmail-and-consumer-gmail-to-more-closely-align/#:~:text=Consumer%20Gmail%20content%20will%20not%20be%20used%20or%20scanned%20for%20any%20ads%20personalization%20after%20this%20change https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in....
- PedroBatista 5y ago
  They do, but they said they don’t.
  - mkr-hn 5y ago
    What could they possibly gain from it that they don't get from data mining they do openly that's worth the inevitable lawsuits from SLA'd companies when it came out?
- MAGZine 5y ago
  they don't need to—remarketing is used enough that there is enough demand for ads in your specific inbox, without having to scan the contents.
influx 5y ago
They also built a database of Amazon purchases, which lead to Amazon now sending me worthless e-mails. Thanks Gmail!

by josefx 5y ago

skybrian 5y ago

I don’t think Gmail advertisers could track you unless you actually clicked on an ad? By today’s standards that’s actually pretty good.

xwolfi 5y ago
But is google an advertiser too at this point ?
- sellyme 5y ago
  They absolutely are, but "if you use Gmail then Google has access to all your emails" is not exactly a shocking security violation.

xxpor 5y ago

Gmail doesn't scan emails any more?

ruined 5y ago
Gmail certainly does scan and process language in email, because they generate reply suggestions, and who knows what else behind the scenes.
Laremere 5y ago
They no longer do any ad personalization based on the contents of your email, and AFAIK, they never did for paying customers. Obviously, other systems process the contents of your email, eg spam filter, the frontend displaying the email to you, and I assume the government can get access through legal warrants (the ethics of the secrecy of such actions is a different debate - Google is required to follow the law).
- xxpor 5y ago
  Yeah, makes sense. I just hadn't heard about the ad change.
  - judge2020 5y ago
    For reference: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in-the-enterprise-g-suites-gmail-and-consumer-gmail-to-more-closely-align/#:~:text=Consumer%20Gmail%20content%20will%20not%20be%20used%20or%20scanned%20for%20any%20ads%20personalization%20after%20this%20change https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in....
PedroBatista 5y ago
They do, but they said they don’t.
- mkr-hn 5y ago
  What could they possibly gain from it that they don't get from data mining they do openly that's worth the inevitable lawsuits from SLA'd companies when it came out?
MAGZine 5y ago
they don't need to—remarketing is used enough that there is enough demand for ads in your specific inbox, without having to scan the contents.

influx 5y ago

They also built a database of Amazon purchases, which lead to Amazon now sending me worthless e-mails. Thanks Gmail!