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Running a gay bar in New York City wasn't illegal in 1969. The Stonewall Inn was effectively a brothel with mafia protection, not a gay version of Cheers.

antiterra 5y ago
Homosexual behavior was branded disorderly conduct and liquor licenses were revoked as a consequence. So yes, it was effectively illegal if you didn’t bribe the cops. People were arrested because the police didn’t consider their genitals to match their clothes. Drug deals and transactions for sex occurred at Stonewall just as they have occurred on Discord, but I’ve not seen any credible evidence that it was a primary function of the place. It seems somewhat a habit of yours to find something bad about victims and then use that to dismiss any wrong done to them. Someone subjected to police abuse? Oh they had a criminal record, so it’s ok. Indigenous people being tortured, enslaved and slaughtered by Spain? Oh, it’s ok because some of them practiced human sacrifice. There’s no going the extra step and recognizing Spain was in the middle of the Inquisition and creating their own murderous horror, or that the Spanish allied with the Aztecs to eliminate groups that didn’t have human sacrifice, or that the Spanish cruelty was applied to the people in the Caribbean as sport from Columbus. It reads like intellectual laziness.
- slumdev 5y ago
  You didn't like my comment, so you went through my post history? Recasting criminals as innocent angels is a disinformation tactic. You don't get to accuse people of laziness when they correct the record.
  - nate_meurer 5y ago
    Your habitual rhetoric is lazy, regardless of much you want it to be considered "correcting the record".
- adolph 5y ago
  > Spanish allied with the Aztecs to eliminate groups that didn’t have human sacrifice As far as I can recall the Spanish did not ally with the Aztecs but conquered the leading faction of the Aztecs through an alliance with rival factions and effects of smallpox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Empire

antiterra 5y ago

Homosexual behavior was branded disorderly conduct and liquor licenses were revoked as a consequence. So yes, it was effectively illegal if you didn’t bribe the cops. People were arrested because the police didn’t consider their genitals to match their clothes. Drug deals and transactions for sex occurred at Stonewall just as they have occurred on Discord, but I’ve not seen any credible evidence that it was a primary function of the place. It seems somewhat a habit of yours to find something bad about victims and then use that to dismiss any wrong done to them. Someone subjected to police abuse? Oh they had a criminal record, so it’s ok. Indigenous people being tortured, enslaved and slaughtered by Spain? Oh, it’s ok because some of them practiced human sacrifice. There’s no going the extra step and recognizing Spain was in the middle of the Inquisition and creating their own murderous horror, or that the Spanish allied with the Aztecs to eliminate groups that didn’t have human sacrifice, or that the Spanish cruelty was applied to the people in the Caribbean as sport from Columbus. It reads like intellectual laziness.

slumdev 5y ago
You didn't like my comment, so you went through my post history? Recasting criminals as innocent angels is a disinformation tactic. You don't get to accuse people of laziness when they correct the record.
- nate_meurer 5y ago
  Your habitual rhetoric is lazy, regardless of much you want it to be considered "correcting the record".
adolph 5y ago
> Spanish allied with the Aztecs to eliminate groups that didn’t have human sacrifice As far as I can recall the Spanish did not ally with the Aztecs but conquered the leading faction of the Aztecs through an alliance with rival factions and effects of smallpox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_Empire