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Firefox cannot meaningfully stand up to Chrome's dominance with ~5% market share and dev layoffs. The iDevices and their locked in Webkit engine is all that for

Firefox cannot meaningfully stand up to Chrome's dominance with ~5% market share and dev layoffs. The iDevices and their locked in Webkit engine is all that forces Google to at least propose web standard drafts and keep up even the appearance of interoperability.

dfabulich 5y ago
Firefox is at ~3% market share now. Mozilla lost a full point over the last year. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share
- jjice 5y ago
  As a Firefox user, I'm not completely surprised. There are multiple video call applications I tried to use that didn't work on Firefox (on Linux at least). I personally have Chrome installed for the sole purpose of resolving those situations and go right back to FF. I'm scared though for FireFox, because they aren't doing too hot. I don't want a Google dominated web. Having the only two real web competitors be Apple and Google is a terrifying idea. Hell, it doesn't event have to be FireFox, I just want some more competition, but browsers are so complex at this point that I don't think we can ever get to that point.
  - jeremija 5y ago
    I hear you, I've been working on peercalls.com, a video conferencing app, for the past few years and it works on all major browsers and platforms, including Firefox. That said, I'm bummed out that E2EE using insertable streams / SFrame transform is only currently supported in Chrome. I've also noticed that very few devs in the WebRTC community actually test stuff in Firefox.
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- hypertele-Xii 5y ago
  Surely changing how tabs look in the latest update must be gaining Mozilla mad points by now. \s
- mdoms 5y ago
  Mozilla making a big song and dance out of resolving 14 year old issues like non-native context menus really rubbed me the wrong way and I uninstalled Firefox.
- gentleman11 5y ago
  Depends on the stat tracker website. Some say 6-7%, but that seems too too high. It should have a higher share. Microsofts anticompetitive “Firefox might be malware” pop ups are absurdly destructive

dfabulich 5y ago

Firefox is at ~3% market share now. Mozilla lost a full point over the last year. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

jjice 5y ago
As a Firefox user, I'm not completely surprised. There are multiple video call applications I tried to use that didn't work on Firefox (on Linux at least). I personally have Chrome installed for the sole purpose of resolving those situations and go right back to FF. I'm scared though for FireFox, because they aren't doing too hot. I don't want a Google dominated web. Having the only two real web competitors be Apple and Google is a terrifying idea. Hell, it doesn't event have to be FireFox, I just want some more competition, but browsers are so complex at this point that I don't think we can ever get to that point.
- jeremija 5y ago
  I hear you, I've been working on peercalls.com, a video conferencing app, for the past few years and it works on all major browsers and platforms, including Firefox. That said, I'm bummed out that E2EE using insertable streams / SFrame transform is only currently supported in Chrome. I've also noticed that very few devs in the WebRTC community actually test stuff in Firefox.
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hypertele-Xii 5y ago
Surely changing how tabs look in the latest update must be gaining Mozilla mad points by now. \s
mdoms 5y ago
Mozilla making a big song and dance out of resolving 14 year old issues like non-native context menus really rubbed me the wrong way and I uninstalled Firefox.
gentleman11 5y ago
Depends on the stat tracker website. Some say 6-7%, but that seems too too high. It should have a higher share. Microsofts anticompetitive “Firefox might be malware” pop ups are absurdly destructive