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Nuclear energy, in the current actual available and usable forms, means that you have a system which never ever can fail, or it will create issues for a big par
by tlamponi 5y ago
Nuclear energy, in the current actual available and usable forms, means that you have a system which never ever can fail, or it will create issues for a big part of the world for the next thousands or even ten thousand years.
That means neither in the plants itself nor in the waste storage systems. Under ideal circumstances and change in society so that all live together peaceful happy, and we're incredible lucky with natural disasters of any form in the vicinity of plants and storage systems, then yes, we may even get away with it. But history tells us this is very unlikely to be the case once politics, real world behaviour of climate, tectonic plate movement, ... is involved.
IMO it's really egoistic to risk screwing over that many future generations.
E.g., during the Cold War both, West and East Germany choose an unfit place (some leaky old salt mine) for their long term storage of nuclear waste, overriding geological expert opinions, just as it was deemed to screw over the other side more in case of leakage, really nice result when then merging again into one country, basically screwed them self double time.
It may be that modern systems are much safer than those decades ago, but 1. those built decades ago are still running and 2. the risk factor cannot just be the probability of an incident, it needs to factor in possible impact and duration of said impact, and when doing so (current) nuclear just stinks.
Don't get me wrong, fusion reactors would be great to have and nuclear power itself can avoid high-carbon emitting power plants (albeit the mining of fissile material isn't exactly done in a green-way either), but the real risk+impact is just brushed over by the lobbyist.
Note, that there's actual astroturfing and greenwashing effort going on with nuclear[0][1], the amount of such posts on HN or reddit + the commenters jumping in to defend this stuff is always astounding.
[0]: https://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=http://ro.uow.edu.au/&httpsredir=1&article=2978&context=lhapapers https://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=http://ro....
[1]: https://search.informit.org/doi/abs/10.3316/ielapa.900854928758689 https://search.informit.org/doi/abs/10.3316/ielapa.900854928...