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> With police the problem is that they might not even get fired, and any judgements against them tend to at best get paid by taxpayers: there is no incentive to

> With police the problem is that they might not even get fired, and any judgements against them tend to at best get paid by taxpayers: there is no incentive to not be horrible. That's the problem. I don't think demonizing the other 99.9% of officers is the solution.

pjc50 5y ago
There was sufficient evidence for any police officer in Minneapolis to arrest Derek Chauvin, and yet they protected him instead. They all chose to be complicit in his crime. Various forces have little internal secret rituals in which they all collude in murder. Above we have https://openvallejo.org/2020/07/28/vallejo-police-bend-badge-tips-to-mark-fatal-shootings/ https://openvallejo.org/2020/07/28/vallejo-police-bend-badge... ; there's another example from NYPD: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23525224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23525224 Doctors very rarely turn out politically to defend the malpractice of other doctors.
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  Yes and all three of the other officers are facing various charges. That's how the legal system works. It's still unclear to me how a small town officer, hundreds of miles away, is guilty for the crimes of people he has nothing to do with.
  - pjc50 5y ago
    > all three of the other officers are facing various charges None of them would have faced charges without months of national protests! That's why there's a problem! And I don't just mean the others that were there, all eight hundred Minneapolis PD officers are to some extent complicit.
    - ceilingcorner 5y ago
      Where did I say that people shouldn't protest things? Protests are great. Let's protest more and get changes made. But protesting against police injustice doesn't mean demonizing the entire profession.
      - marvindanig 5y ago
        Could you provide the source indicating that only 0.1% of cops are bad and the remaining 99.9% are good? Meanwhile a reality check for you: https://twitter.com/ProfessorPenis/status/1404305553904570368 https://twitter.com/ProfessorPenis/status/140430555390457036... "the cops showed up with bear mace and rubber bullets for the protesters. THE PEOPLE administered aid. THE PEOPLE apprehended the driver. the cops did nothing but antagonize the crowd of people that were almost murdered."
tolbish 5y ago
Well that is a strawman if I ever heard one. Protesting for police accountability != demonizing the police

pjc50 5y ago

There was sufficient evidence for any police officer in Minneapolis to arrest Derek Chauvin, and yet they protected him instead. They all chose to be complicit in his crime. Various forces have little internal secret rituals in which they all collude in murder. Above we have https://openvallejo.org/2020/07/28/vallejo-police-bend-badge-tips-to-mark-fatal-shootings/ https://openvallejo.org/2020/07/28/vallejo-police-bend-badge... ; there's another example from NYPD: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23525224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23525224 Doctors very rarely turn out politically to defend the malpractice of other doctors.

ceilingcorner 5y ago
Yes and all three of the other officers are facing various charges. That's how the legal system works. It's still unclear to me how a small town officer, hundreds of miles away, is guilty for the crimes of people he has nothing to do with.
- pjc50 5y ago
  > all three of the other officers are facing various charges None of them would have faced charges without months of national protests! That's why there's a problem! And I don't just mean the others that were there, all eight hundred Minneapolis PD officers are to some extent complicit.
  - ceilingcorner 5y ago
    Where did I say that people shouldn't protest things? Protests are great. Let's protest more and get changes made. But protesting against police injustice doesn't mean demonizing the entire profession.
    - marvindanig 5y ago
      Could you provide the source indicating that only 0.1% of cops are bad and the remaining 99.9% are good? Meanwhile a reality check for you: https://twitter.com/ProfessorPenis/status/1404305553904570368 https://twitter.com/ProfessorPenis/status/140430555390457036... "the cops showed up with bear mace and rubber bullets for the protesters. THE PEOPLE administered aid. THE PEOPLE apprehended the driver. the cops did nothing but antagonize the crowd of people that were almost murdered."

tolbish 5y ago

Well that is a strawman if I ever heard one. Protesting for police accountability != demonizing the police