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Except for damned if you do, damned if you dont situations. Most higher ups in law enforcement act more like wannabe politicians rather than senior LEO that man
by NoOneNew 5y ago
Except for damned if you do, damned if you dont situations. Most higher ups in law enforcement act more like wannabe politicians rather than senior LEO that manage and coordinate. If you're on the bottom of the totem pole and you see regular cases of seniority or random outside politicians throwing every officer they can under the bus for virtue signaling votes... I wonder how well that'll work out. Let's add on the policy and public sentiment of defund the police, because it's the cops fault crimes are committed. How's that working out in Seattle and Minneapolis? Do a search on the crime rates of the cities that decided cOpS bAd. Crime rates went up, badly. Look, dont get me wrong, reform is needed. I actually say the prison systems and punishments needs massive, massive reform here. Non-violent criminals should never, ever be held in the same building as violent, but that happens about 60-70% of the time (last I saw, but I think it may have been state specific, this was years ago). I also dont think petty, bullshit crimes should get jail time, but this is a vague statement that requires a large discussion outside of here. Plus, you get asshole cops the same way you get asshole anything. It happens. Dont pretend for a second the academic or tech world is full of angels. We are talking about humans. However, if the "good" cops have a low tolerance for bullshit because they just want to do the civil job they WANT to do, properly... you start to push out the internal checks and balances.
Ultimately though, I find it funny how "intelligent" people are so incredibly stupid when it comes to law enforcement. Cops dont make laws. They abide by laws created by legislator politicians. Cops cant argue if a law should be enforced. Only judges and sheriffs can make that call (both are elected positions by the way). However, again, they cant create laws. They work in the spectrum given. The whole checks and balance thing if you paid attention in school. The same politicians who saw "cops bad, shame on them" are the same shit stains that made the law enforcement policy that's hated. Then... they throw the cops under the bus... huh, I wonder why people dont want to be cops once they see how stupid both politicians and the public are on the matter. My honest opinion, as an American that's lived here his whole life, the people fell asleep at the wheel and we are headed for a cliff. It's not the road's fault that there's a turn, it's the driver's fault for not keeping their eyes open. Politicians making bullshit laws for cops to follow then blaming cops for those laws is Biblical level the devil laughing while striking a deal.
- ceejayoz 5y ago> Do a search on the crime rates of the cities that decided cOpS bAd. Crime rates went up, badly. It probably shouldn't be surprising that crime went up in a global pandemic and the resulting economic distress. Crime went up all over; I rather suspect Black Lives Matter wasn't responsible for the increase in Billings, Montana, for example, with a black population of 0.8%. https://www.krtv.com/news/crime-and-courts/violent-crime-surged-in-billings-in-2020 https://www.krtv.com/news/crime-and-courts/violent-crime-sur... > Cops cant argue if a law should be enforced. Cops do this all the time. They let people off with warnings, or just let it pass them by. There's immense discretion at the individual cop level on whether crimes should lead to an arrest.
- swader999 5y agoAnd look at Mexico which has a compromised force.
- syops 5y agoExcept cops don’t really follow the law when it comes to policing the police. The widespread use of extra judicial punishment, the widespread use of someone being arrested with the sole charge of resisting arrest and other such tactics indicate that the notion of police merely enforcing laws is not correct. There are virtually no checks and balances when it comes to police being held accountable for their crimes and their lies on police reports and whatnot. There are systemic police abuses in the U.S. that largely go unpunished.