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For context, resignations are spiking across the board in all industries and all over the country: https://www.wsj.com/articles/forget-going-back-to-the-officep

by tootie 5y ago

For context, resignations are spiking across the board in all industries and all over the country: https://www.wsj.com/articles/forget-going-back-to-the-officepeople-are-just-quitting-instead-11623576602 https://www.wsj.com/articles/forget-going-back-to-the-office... I'd suspect this is part and parcel of that and less driven by politics or protests. It's been a tough year and a half for everyone and fatigue is setting in. People are reassessing their priorities in life.

pessimizer 5y ago
If we claim that the culture of law enforcement is corrupt, we should be encouraged by the turnover. The problem with that appealing line of thinking for me is the massive amount of mandatory overtime the cops have worked in the past year, which might be nice in the beginning (a lot of cash) but after a year crazy/depression-making. Add to that the weird determination of cities to beat 2020 numbers in crime stats (2020 was a unique year) keeping the OT going. Teachers have been drying up, too, because of local pols using public employees as a political football. It's all pretty complicated.
- avs733 5y ago
  >If we claim that the culture of law enforcement is corrupt, we should be encouraged by the turnover. It could also be that the better ones are resigning...unfortunately. Unfortunately complicated. Public employees are still what make an enormous amount of this country work and they are consistently abused and used as tools in ways that hurt their ability to do so.
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- steveBK123 5y ago
  Yes but if you've ever worked in a company with high voluntary turnover.. you've probably realized the first to leave are not the ones you want to leave.. and the ones you wish left tend to hang on for dear life..
- tootie 5y ago
  Unless we know that the worst cops are leaving because they feel unwelcome, as opposed to the best ones leaving because they can no longer be part of the system, it's hard to tell what the impact will be.
nverno 5y ago
I'm not sure the general trend accounts for this entirely. Annualizing the high 2.7% monthly (??) rate from the WSJ article is still only half that mentioned here. [[ It may actually be yearly, in which case it is barely a dent in the numbers reported for police depts. I don't think the period stated clearly in the WSJ article ]]

by tootie 5y ago

pessimizer 5y ago

If we claim that the culture of law enforcement is corrupt, we should be encouraged by the turnover. The problem with that appealing line of thinking for me is the massive amount of mandatory overtime the cops have worked in the past year, which might be nice in the beginning (a lot of cash) but after a year crazy/depression-making. Add to that the weird determination of cities to beat 2020 numbers in crime stats (2020 was a unique year) keeping the OT going. Teachers have been drying up, too, because of local pols using public employees as a political football. It's all pretty complicated.

avs733 5y ago
>If we claim that the culture of law enforcement is corrupt, we should be encouraged by the turnover. It could also be that the better ones are resigning...unfortunately. Unfortunately complicated. Public employees are still what make an enormous amount of this country work and they are consistently abused and used as tools in ways that hurt their ability to do so.
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steveBK123 5y ago
Yes but if you've ever worked in a company with high voluntary turnover.. you've probably realized the first to leave are not the ones you want to leave.. and the ones you wish left tend to hang on for dear life..
tootie 5y ago
Unless we know that the worst cops are leaving because they feel unwelcome, as opposed to the best ones leaving because they can no longer be part of the system, it's hard to tell what the impact will be.

nverno 5y ago

I'm not sure the general trend accounts for this entirely. Annualizing the high 2.7% monthly (??) rate from the WSJ article is still only half that mentioned here. [[ It may actually be yearly, in which case it is barely a dent in the numbers reported for police depts. I don't think the period stated clearly in the WSJ article ]]