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The reasoning is quite simple: Lee wants to force everybody away from Freenode to Libera so that he has full control and power over an empty Freenode network.

PhasmaFelis 5y ago
Why, though? How does that benefit him in any way?
- craftinator 5y ago
  Dictators gonna dictate.
- foobarbaz33 5y ago
  Do you even underpants gnomes bro?
- makomk 5y ago
  I think the answer is that it doesn't, and what he actually wanted was the minor prestige of (sort of) owning and funding (part of) Freenode and having his company's logo in the corner of the site whilst leaving the actual operations to the existing staff. That is to say, basically the same status quo as the last few years. From what I can tell, somewhere along the line some of the staff decided that wasn't OK and kicked out the person who'd actually been in charge of the network since the founder died, his newly-appointed replacement demanded that the Freenode domain be transferred to him personally and rejected Lee and others' suggestion of giving control of it to the community instead, and things went downhill from there with attempts to lock Lee and people seen as affiliated with him out of the network, threats of mass resignations and bogus claims of unprecedented advertising intrusion on the Freenode site, selling people's personal info, etc...
- floatingatoll 5y ago
  The most likely theory I've seen so far is that he wants to make it Free in the Parler/4chan sense, using the positive karma balance behind the word Freenode to legitimize it. This, like all other theories, is not supported by strong enough evidence that it can be declared certain.
  - Doxin 5y ago
    > Free in the Parler/4chan sense If that were his goal, banning any channel even mentioning libera.chat seems to be going in the opposite direction. If he actually went more hands-off in the style of 4chan it'd have had a chance of surviving. There was a period after the takeover where a lot of people were just kinda waiting to see. Now that they have seen there's not much chance left for freenode IMO.
    - floatingatoll 5y ago
      No one predicted “discards nickserv database” so I don’t think we’re done being surprised by what comes next.
      - Doxin 5y ago
        If I weren't so annoyed at the whole thing I would find it deeply amusing in a sort of absurdist way.

PhasmaFelis 5y ago

Why, though? How does that benefit him in any way?

craftinator 5y ago
Dictators gonna dictate.
foobarbaz33 5y ago
Do you even underpants gnomes bro?
makomk 5y ago
I think the answer is that it doesn't, and what he actually wanted was the minor prestige of (sort of) owning and funding (part of) Freenode and having his company's logo in the corner of the site whilst leaving the actual operations to the existing staff. That is to say, basically the same status quo as the last few years. From what I can tell, somewhere along the line some of the staff decided that wasn't OK and kicked out the person who'd actually been in charge of the network since the founder died, his newly-appointed replacement demanded that the Freenode domain be transferred to him personally and rejected Lee and others' suggestion of giving control of it to the community instead, and things went downhill from there with attempts to lock Lee and people seen as affiliated with him out of the network, threats of mass resignations and bogus claims of unprecedented advertising intrusion on the Freenode site, selling people's personal info, etc...
floatingatoll 5y ago
The most likely theory I've seen so far is that he wants to make it Free in the Parler/4chan sense, using the positive karma balance behind the word Freenode to legitimize it. This, like all other theories, is not supported by strong enough evidence that it can be declared certain.
- Doxin 5y ago
  > Free in the Parler/4chan sense If that were his goal, banning any channel even mentioning libera.chat seems to be going in the opposite direction. If he actually went more hands-off in the style of 4chan it'd have had a chance of surviving. There was a period after the takeover where a lot of people were just kinda waiting to see. Now that they have seen there's not much chance left for freenode IMO.
  - floatingatoll 5y ago
    No one predicted “discards nickserv database” so I don’t think we’re done being surprised by what comes next.
    - Doxin 5y ago
      If I weren't so annoyed at the whole thing I would find it deeply amusing in a sort of absurdist way.