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Why doesn't the new Freenode staff just shut down the IRC servers? That would be a lot less work than killing off each channel individually.

darklion 5y ago
That's sort of my question. What's the end goal for Freenode? They're burning the network to the ground. Is there some positive outcome for them here that I'm missing?
- wizzwizz4 5y ago
  Once they've burnt it to the ground, they'll have a blank slate. It looks like they're trying to make a job board for channers…? It might work; I'm confused enough to think I'm missing something. If others feel that same confusion, Lee's Freenode might be able to get some venture capital.
  - yoz-y 5y ago
    IRC is not exactly booming. Those who have fled during this exodus will probably not return. And trying to get people who don't already use IRC on board will be even more difficult.
    - wizzwizz4 5y ago
      They probably won't return. They're certainly not going to return to Freenode, though. IRC doesn't need to boom. The communities matter; IRC is just a protocol.
      - yoz-y 5y ago
        Ah yes, I meant return to Freenode. IRC need not be booming, but since it isn’t the "burn to the ground and rebuild" strategy will not work. As you said, communities is what matters and once they have moved they have little reason to return.
  - pjc50 5y ago
    > job board for channers I'd have thought real names and chan culture's extreme NSFWness would get on incredibly badly.
    - BeFlatXIII 5y ago
      Channers and leaving NEETdom the normal way? Yes. Channers hiring other channers? That’s called company culture. The customers in the latter scenario are either also channers who appreciate the toxicity or the company makes the software equivalent of ball bearings and does not have enough public presence for consumer boycotts to have any effect.
  - behringer 5y ago
    lee's a regular user here on HN, so anything he sees here that he thinks is "simple" enough to be copied to freenode, he does without much thought.
  - manabi 5y ago
    Well it's been burnt to the ground, they wiped services and started anew on a different IRCd. And I noticed that user's hostnames are hidden by default now. Things like "@freenode-tbu.1hs.4lttne.IP" & "freenode-0ji.04k.68srct.IP." Making everyone more anonymous seems very chan-like.
- failwhaleshark 5y ago
  It seems like Schadenfreude or sour grapes. Chat is a slightly more dynamic market than email for user acquisition, but it's still damn hard to get new users. Who but a bunch of rubes would use a previously nonprofit service that was publicly obliterated? Or is the end goal a new, commercial brand strategy? No one in tech with any sense will use them.
- dole 5y ago
  My money's on ridiculous crypto exit scam
  - jeltz 5y ago
    Either that or rasengan is setting everything on fire because he is a sore loser.
    - manabi 5y ago
      On a related note, he changed his nick to root. I'm pretty sure he did it because of the saying "root is god," which is true on *nix platforms. (The root user can do anything, including deleting the entire filesystem while the computer is running. It's powerful and meant to be used in moderation.)
Seirdy 5y ago
Well...they're not shutting down the servers. Just wiping the registrations and starting anew: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27510192 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27510192

darklion 5y ago

That's sort of my question. What's the end goal for Freenode? They're burning the network to the ground. Is there some positive outcome for them here that I'm missing?

wizzwizz4 5y ago
Once they've burnt it to the ground, they'll have a blank slate. It looks like they're trying to make a job board for channers…? It might work; I'm confused enough to think I'm missing something. If others feel that same confusion, Lee's Freenode might be able to get some venture capital.
- yoz-y 5y ago
  IRC is not exactly booming. Those who have fled during this exodus will probably not return. And trying to get people who don't already use IRC on board will be even more difficult.
  - wizzwizz4 5y ago
    They probably won't return. They're certainly not going to return to Freenode, though. IRC doesn't need to boom. The communities matter; IRC is just a protocol.
    - yoz-y 5y ago
      Ah yes, I meant return to Freenode. IRC need not be booming, but since it isn’t the "burn to the ground and rebuild" strategy will not work. As you said, communities is what matters and once they have moved they have little reason to return.
- pjc50 5y ago
  > job board for channers I'd have thought real names and chan culture's extreme NSFWness would get on incredibly badly.
  - BeFlatXIII 5y ago
    Channers and leaving NEETdom the normal way? Yes. Channers hiring other channers? That’s called company culture. The customers in the latter scenario are either also channers who appreciate the toxicity or the company makes the software equivalent of ball bearings and does not have enough public presence for consumer boycotts to have any effect.
- behringer 5y ago
  lee's a regular user here on HN, so anything he sees here that he thinks is "simple" enough to be copied to freenode, he does without much thought.
- manabi 5y ago
  Well it's been burnt to the ground, they wiped services and started anew on a different IRCd. And I noticed that user's hostnames are hidden by default now. Things like "@freenode-tbu.1hs.4lttne.IP" & "freenode-0ji.04k.68srct.IP." Making everyone more anonymous seems very chan-like.
failwhaleshark 5y ago
It seems like Schadenfreude or sour grapes. Chat is a slightly more dynamic market than email for user acquisition, but it's still damn hard to get new users. Who but a bunch of rubes would use a previously nonprofit service that was publicly obliterated? Or is the end goal a new, commercial brand strategy? No one in tech with any sense will use them.
dole 5y ago
My money's on ridiculous crypto exit scam
- jeltz 5y ago
  Either that or rasengan is setting everything on fire because he is a sore loser.
  - manabi 5y ago
    On a related note, he changed his nick to root. I'm pretty sure he did it because of the saying "root is god," which is true on *nix platforms. (The root user can do anything, including deleting the entire filesystem while the computer is running. It's powerful and meant to be used in moderation.)

Seirdy 5y ago

Well...they're not shutting down the servers. Just wiping the registrations and starting anew: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27510192 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27510192