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> Just because something has been buried, doesn't mean it will stay buried. It does for a long time at least 1000 years > I appreciate we're in a bind, but nu

> Just because something has been buried, doesn't mean it will stay buried. It does for a long time at least 1000 years > I appreciate we're in a bind, but nuclear has huge conceptual and practical problems. Which are? > It would be more sensible to reduce usage and rely on 100% renewables. Not possible? The public appetite isn't there? Thats not going to happen and there's no need > ... Perhaps, but if that's the case we probably deserve to die out your choice, not mine

lwhi 5y ago
We're not likely to agree. If small pockets of rock, mineral, gas and oil can be found above the surface; it stands to reason that your 1000 year prophecy is optimistic.
- chadcmulligan 5y ago
  You never know, I used to be against nuclear energy, now I'm pro - I was a member of CANE - the campaign against nuclear energy in my youth :-). The most significant problem is disposing of the waste, there's some reading on it here [1]. 1000 years is tomorrow in geologic terms, in [1] they're talking about a single canister failure in 150,000 years. Imagine the tech we'd have available by then if we're still around. There's a lot of low level waste to when you have to pull a reactor to bits - all the buildings are a bit radioactive, but its easy enough to put in a hole. The one thing you don't want is the groundwater to be contaminated by radiation leaking out, vitrification seems to be the best current solution - turning it into glass. Have a read, you never know. [1] https://cen.acs.org/environment/pollution/nuclear-waste-pilesscientists-seek-best/98/i12 https://cen.acs.org/environment/pollution/nuclear-waste-pile...
  - lwhi 5y ago
    Rhetoric can be used to sell almost anything. Fundamentally; we have no solution for the waste other than bury it. > 1000 years is tomorrow in geologic terms Think what the human race was actually doing 1000 years ago, and then try to make that statement again with a straight face. The geology does not care. The terms that are important are human. > Imagine the tech we'd have available by then if we're still around. Technology will not save us. Ego and the desire for progress at any cost is going to kill us far sooner.
    - chadcmulligan 5y ago
      >Rhetoric can be used to sell almost anything. Sure, but these are facts, not sure why you're having this discussion here if you want something else.
      - lwhi 5y ago
        Ultimately, there are some very inconvenient problems which are difficult to solve. The jeapody involved is being downplayed.
        chadcmulligan 5y ago
        I would love to know what you mean - you keep saying these vague things with no facts to back them up.
        lwhi 5y ago
        Scroll up! * Accidents will happen. * The degree of hazard involved in a nuclear accident is very high. * We have no solution for waste other than bury it.

lwhi 5y ago

We're not likely to agree. If small pockets of rock, mineral, gas and oil can be found above the surface; it stands to reason that your 1000 year prophecy is optimistic.

chadcmulligan 5y ago
You never know, I used to be against nuclear energy, now I'm pro - I was a member of CANE - the campaign against nuclear energy in my youth :-). The most significant problem is disposing of the waste, there's some reading on it here [1]. 1000 years is tomorrow in geologic terms, in [1] they're talking about a single canister failure in 150,000 years. Imagine the tech we'd have available by then if we're still around. There's a lot of low level waste to when you have to pull a reactor to bits - all the buildings are a bit radioactive, but its easy enough to put in a hole. The one thing you don't want is the groundwater to be contaminated by radiation leaking out, vitrification seems to be the best current solution - turning it into glass. Have a read, you never know. [1] https://cen.acs.org/environment/pollution/nuclear-waste-pilesscientists-seek-best/98/i12 https://cen.acs.org/environment/pollution/nuclear-waste-pile...
- lwhi 5y ago
  Rhetoric can be used to sell almost anything. Fundamentally; we have no solution for the waste other than bury it. > 1000 years is tomorrow in geologic terms Think what the human race was actually doing 1000 years ago, and then try to make that statement again with a straight face. The geology does not care. The terms that are important are human. > Imagine the tech we'd have available by then if we're still around. Technology will not save us. Ego and the desire for progress at any cost is going to kill us far sooner.
  - chadcmulligan 5y ago
    >Rhetoric can be used to sell almost anything. Sure, but these are facts, not sure why you're having this discussion here if you want something else.
    - lwhi 5y ago
      Ultimately, there are some very inconvenient problems which are difficult to solve. The jeapody involved is being downplayed.
      - chadcmulligan 5y ago
        I would love to know what you mean - you keep saying these vague things with no facts to back them up.
        lwhi 5y ago
        Scroll up! * Accidents will happen. * The degree of hazard involved in a nuclear accident is very high. * We have no solution for waste other than bury it.