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I guess this may not be the right place to ask this, but I have not seen any "explanation" on why the company who bought freenode is killing it and I am really

I guess this may not be the right place to ask this, but I have not seen any "explanation" on why the company who bought freenode is killing it and I am really curious why would one buy sth and then kill it.

radiowave 5y ago
I'm not an IRC person, so I have no idea myself about any of these things, but I notice that this blog post links to an earlier post where the author speculates about what's driving these changes: https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole-freenode-kerfluffle/ https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole-freenode-kerfluff...
rincebrain 5y ago
It's unclear to me that it's a deliberate effort to kill it so much as reshape it to suit his desires, and either genuine ignorance or absolute lack of care about the damage done to communities previously on there. It would, after all, be relatively simple to just destroy the system with godlike power over it, unless you have some other goal. I would speculate, from the multiplication of freenode-related services and the few attempted partnerships, that one goal is to monetize/reshape freenode's community into not being solely IRC-centered. A bunch of his pre-freenode actions seem focused around monetization, so it seems to logically follow. A bunch of the actions seem to just be petty, though - as cited in the last thread about freenode, he klined all of irccloud, presumably because irccloud posted something in support of Libera chat, and was quoted as saying "fck irc cloud". He's apparently been klining anyone who submits things he dislikes on the freenode HN-alike.
DemocracyFTW 5y ago
Over at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27495358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27495358 are some hints what Crownprince Root Lee is up to (or up against): > ratww 15 hours ago [–] > There have been some weird messages from the dude lately, the latest was > > "<root> The community on IRC is made up of some of the smartest, most beautiful people in the world. It's been an honor to be here with you all, friends and foes. We've been waiting for IRC's return for quite some time -- and for you, we deliver. A new genesis is taking place uncovering a new era. Freedom, and the people, shall rise to power. Freedom is not dead, it lives, here, with freenode." > > jamincan 15 hours ago [–] > > This sounds like the message you'd hear booming over loudspeakers in a shelled out, dystopian regime. I'd say he's lost his way.
phire 5y ago
From their point of view, it's everyone who is resisting this takeover (or simply deciding to leave freenode and avoid drama) who is killing freenode. It's not a company, it's pretty much a single person, Andrew Lee. And Lee appears to have some narcissistic tendencies.

radiowave 5y ago

I'm not an IRC person, so I have no idea myself about any of these things, but I notice that this blog post links to an earlier post where the author speculates about what's driving these changes: https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole-freenode-kerfluffle/ https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole-freenode-kerfluff...

rincebrain 5y ago

It's unclear to me that it's a deliberate effort to kill it so much as reshape it to suit his desires, and either genuine ignorance or absolute lack of care about the damage done to communities previously on there. It would, after all, be relatively simple to just destroy the system with godlike power over it, unless you have some other goal. I would speculate, from the multiplication of freenode-related services and the few attempted partnerships, that one goal is to monetize/reshape freenode's community into not being solely IRC-centered. A bunch of his pre-freenode actions seem focused around monetization, so it seems to logically follow. A bunch of the actions seem to just be petty, though - as cited in the last thread about freenode, he klined all of irccloud, presumably because irccloud posted something in support of Libera chat, and was quoted as saying "fck irc cloud". He's apparently been klining anyone who submits things he dislikes on the freenode HN-alike.

DemocracyFTW 5y ago

Over at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27495358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27495358 are some hints what Crownprince Root Lee is up to (or up against): > ratww 15 hours ago [–] > There have been some weird messages from the dude lately, the latest was > > "<root> The community on IRC is made up of some of the smartest, most beautiful people in the world. It's been an honor to be here with you all, friends and foes. We've been waiting for IRC's return for quite some time -- and for you, we deliver. A new genesis is taking place uncovering a new era. Freedom, and the people, shall rise to power. Freedom is not dead, it lives, here, with freenode." > > jamincan 15 hours ago [–] > > This sounds like the message you'd hear booming over loudspeakers in a shelled out, dystopian regime. I'd say he's lost his way.

phire 5y ago

From their point of view, it's everyone who is resisting this takeover (or simply deciding to leave freenode and avoid drama) who is killing freenode. It's not a company, it's pretty much a single person, Andrew Lee. And Lee appears to have some narcissistic tendencies.