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I don't think I would say that. Such an AI wouldn't need to pass a Turing test or be able to reason in any other situation than traffic. And for traffic, it wil

I don't think I would say that. Such an AI wouldn't need to pass a Turing test or be able to reason in any other situation than traffic. And for traffic, it will have a highly specialized sensory system which is going to be (or already is) vastly better than our eyes and ears.

moralestapia 5y ago
>which is going to be (or already is) vastly better than our eyes and ears Not even close, you underestimate what our sensory system is capable of. Scenario 1: You're driving on a highway and you notice people on the opposite lane are coming in slowly, with hazard lights on and waving at you. Because of this you slow down and drive more carefully, to discover that there's been an accident/landslide/whatever right around the corner. Your whole lane is then, closed, but cars are going both ways using the other lane by taking turns, the whole thing is orchestrated by a few guys making signs at cars with their hands/flags, which you naturally follow. (This has happened to me at least 10 times in the past) Scenario 2: Light rain is pouring down, you also know the temperature is quite close or below 0ºC, you slow down and drive with extreme caution as you're about to enter a stretch of road that is known to be prone for black ice formation. Scenario 3: You're driving under crosswind when suddenly, the truck in front of you does this, [1]. None of the cars recording crashed with the truck, what do you think is the reason for that? I could go on and on ... Forget the dumb Turing tests, driving >= AGI. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwbbsgaRaQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwbbsgaRaQ
- dagw 5y ago
  At least Scenario 2 should be much easier for self driving cars to manage than humans since they can (at least in theory) monitor the dampness, temperature and traction of the road they are on in real time. There are camera systems today that can detect black ice with combination of IR and image recognition, and in the future there might be systems like that along most roads that can send real time updates about upcoming hazards directly to the car. Scenario 3 is functionally no different than a truck driving slowly and weaving back and forth erratically, something that should be part of the standard scenarios any self driving car should handle. Scenario 1 is almost certainly the hardest one and the one that will take longest to solve.
  - moralestapia 5y ago
    >Scenario 2 Nope, it's not about detecting the ice or not. It's about being rational enough to be able to reason on those things in advance and act beforehand. >Scenario 3 should is not a real thing. Humans already do it. >Scenario 1 Yes, because solving it implies solving AGI.

moralestapia 5y ago

>which is going to be (or already is) vastly better than our eyes and ears Not even close, you underestimate what our sensory system is capable of. Scenario 1: You're driving on a highway and you notice people on the opposite lane are coming in slowly, with hazard lights on and waving at you. Because of this you slow down and drive more carefully, to discover that there's been an accident/landslide/whatever right around the corner. Your whole lane is then, closed, but cars are going both ways using the other lane by taking turns, the whole thing is orchestrated by a few guys making signs at cars with their hands/flags, which you naturally follow. (This has happened to me at least 10 times in the past) Scenario 2: Light rain is pouring down, you also know the temperature is quite close or below 0ºC, you slow down and drive with extreme caution as you're about to enter a stretch of road that is known to be prone for black ice formation. Scenario 3: You're driving under crosswind when suddenly, the truck in front of you does this, [1]. None of the cars recording crashed with the truck, what do you think is the reason for that? I could go on and on ... Forget the dumb Turing tests, driving >= AGI. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwbbsgaRaQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwbbsgaRaQ

dagw 5y ago
At least Scenario 2 should be much easier for self driving cars to manage than humans since they can (at least in theory) monitor the dampness, temperature and traction of the road they are on in real time. There are camera systems today that can detect black ice with combination of IR and image recognition, and in the future there might be systems like that along most roads that can send real time updates about upcoming hazards directly to the car. Scenario 3 is functionally no different than a truck driving slowly and weaving back and forth erratically, something that should be part of the standard scenarios any self driving car should handle. Scenario 1 is almost certainly the hardest one and the one that will take longest to solve.
- moralestapia 5y ago
  >Scenario 2 Nope, it's not about detecting the ice or not. It's about being rational enough to be able to reason on those things in advance and act beforehand. >Scenario 3 should is not a real thing. Humans already do it. >Scenario 1 Yes, because solving it implies solving AGI.