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Because about 80% of all drivers consider themselves above-average I expect that bar to be placed unrealistically high.

by bzzzt 5y ago

transportguy 5y ago
It's plausible that 20% of drivers crash enough for 80% to be above average
- transportguy 5y ago
  'According to the AA Charitable Trust, 40% of UK drivers have crashed by the time they are 23 years old, and 26% of drivers have crashed within two years of obtaining their licence. (Source: https://m.toptests.co.uk/driving-statistics/ https://m.toptests.co.uk/driving-statistics/)' Although maybe not
  - toast0 5y ago
    I was a pretty crap driver before I was 23 (regardless of what I would have said then), but I'm not too bad now. Although, it depends on what you measure, I suppose; I've driven behind a Waymo vehicle, and they stay in the lines a lot more than me (which could be a positive for following rules, or a negative for increased drive times), but I also didn't ever change lanes into a bus expecting it would move, and I can avoid some of the annoying driving behaviors I used to see with Waymo (signal a lane change, decide not to do it, loop); not sure where they're at with that since I no longer live in their test areas.
moralestapia 5y ago
Could you share your source?
- Mordisquitos 5y ago
  Here is one of the classic research papers on the subject: Iain A. McCormick, Frank H. Walkey, Dianne E. Green, Comparative perceptions of driver ability— A confirmation and expansion, Accident Analysis & Prevention, Volume 18, Issue 3, 1986, Pages 205-208, ISSN 0001-4575, https://doi.org/10.1016/0001-4575(86)90004-7 https://doi.org/10.1016/0001-4575(86)90004-7. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0001457586900047 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0001457586...)
  - moralestapia 5y ago
    "Hi, this is a recorded interview for a study we are running, have you ever committed an illegal act?" "Nah." "Thanks." Can you see the bias?
    - Mordisquitos 5y ago
      I would indeed see the bias if that was the question that they were asking. Was it?
      - moralestapia 5y ago
        Almost. They were asked to answer whether they considered themselves "foolish, unpredictable, unreliable, inconsiderate, dangerous, tense, worthless and/or irresponsible". Very few people would have answered truthfully.
michjedi 5y ago
thanaverage.xyz actually suggests that only 54% of people think they drive better than average, with 19014 participants https://thanaverage.xyz/ https://thanaverage.xyz/

Because about 80% of all drivers consider themselves above-average I expect that bar to be placed unrealistically high.

by bzzzt 5y ago

Because about 80% of all drivers consider themselves above-average I expect that bar to be placed unrealistically high.

transportguy 5y ago

It's plausible that 20% of drivers crash enough for 80% to be above average

transportguy 5y ago
'According to the AA Charitable Trust, 40% of UK drivers have crashed by the time they are 23 years old, and 26% of drivers have crashed within two years of obtaining their licence. (Source: https://m.toptests.co.uk/driving-statistics/ https://m.toptests.co.uk/driving-statistics/)' Although maybe not
- toast0 5y ago
  I was a pretty crap driver before I was 23 (regardless of what I would have said then), but I'm not too bad now. Although, it depends on what you measure, I suppose; I've driven behind a Waymo vehicle, and they stay in the lines a lot more than me (which could be a positive for following rules, or a negative for increased drive times), but I also didn't ever change lanes into a bus expecting it would move, and I can avoid some of the annoying driving behaviors I used to see with Waymo (signal a lane change, decide not to do it, loop); not sure where they're at with that since I no longer live in their test areas.

moralestapia 5y ago

Could you share your source?

Mordisquitos 5y ago
Here is one of the classic research papers on the subject: Iain A. McCormick, Frank H. Walkey, Dianne E. Green, Comparative perceptions of driver ability— A confirmation and expansion, Accident Analysis & Prevention, Volume 18, Issue 3, 1986, Pages 205-208, ISSN 0001-4575, https://doi.org/10.1016/0001-4575(86)90004-7 https://doi.org/10.1016/0001-4575(86)90004-7. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0001457586900047 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0001457586...)
- moralestapia 5y ago
  "Hi, this is a recorded interview for a study we are running, have you ever committed an illegal act?" "Nah." "Thanks." Can you see the bias?
  - Mordisquitos 5y ago
    I would indeed see the bias if that was the question that they were asking. Was it?
    - moralestapia 5y ago
      Almost. They were asked to answer whether they considered themselves "foolish, unpredictable, unreliable, inconsiderate, dangerous, tense, worthless and/or irresponsible". Very few people would have answered truthfully.

michjedi 5y ago

thanaverage.xyz actually suggests that only 54% of people think they drive better than average, with 19014 participants https://thanaverage.xyz/ https://thanaverage.xyz/