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> Why are you delaying the content to newsletter subscribers? I'm not. It's only delayed when it gets posted to the web archive. Newsletter subscribers get i

> Why are you delaying the content to newsletter subscribers? I'm not. It's only delayed when it gets posted to the web archive. Newsletter subscribers get it straight away. And ... (Full transparency mode) it's to encourage readers to subscribe. > Considering the source of your content, and lack of attribution; now it's looking shifty. Please see comments above, particularly https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27493014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27493014.

ohyeshedid 5y ago
Right. You're talking about incentivizing a subscription to your newsletter. You have no TOS, nor PP, for it. You're providing scraped content while either time-gating it, or putting it behind a subscription. Everything together appears questionable to me. Here's a question: If this isn't to be monetized, and this isn't about lead capture; why are you incentivizing subscriptions with current content instead of adding it to your feed?
- bengtan 5y ago
  I think it's fairly obvious. I'm gonna build a massive mailing list. When I get enough numbers, I'll include a link to a malicious website. Then people click on it and it'll download malware onto their computer. That will seed my botnet and then I can do bad things with it.
  - account42 5y ago
    Responding to valid concerns with sarcasm does not build trust.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  To be fair, it is very possible to not currently monetize or lead capture along with little to no intention for that in the future. You just want to build an audience for the sake of it. Of course when that power of a solid audience is actually there, then the more profit seeking intentions may come in. Still, there’s no way to tell what path the person will go down. I don’t think assuming bad faith in your last paragraph is needed. A trope on HN is acting holier than thou or rationalizing own behavior. IE piracy of media or ad blocking scorched earth style without true principled reason like malware or tracking. The biggest I have found is the person likely doesn’t make their paycheck now or in the recent past from super principled pious-like work. Or they did make their money that way and are now changed. Like The Social Dilemma film. Almost entirely filled with multi millionaires and two billionaires who made at least a chunk of their fortunes from social media. Money they are most certainly keeping and power/influence gained they are most certainly using too — I mean they are on this trending big documentary talking about helping the common man vs big social media/tech while not being the common man because of money from said industry.

ohyeshedid 5y ago

Right. You're talking about incentivizing a subscription to your newsletter. You have no TOS, nor PP, for it. You're providing scraped content while either time-gating it, or putting it behind a subscription. Everything together appears questionable to me. Here's a question: If this isn't to be monetized, and this isn't about lead capture; why are you incentivizing subscriptions with current content instead of adding it to your feed?

bengtan 5y ago
I think it's fairly obvious. I'm gonna build a massive mailing list. When I get enough numbers, I'll include a link to a malicious website. Then people click on it and it'll download malware onto their computer. That will seed my botnet and then I can do bad things with it.
- account42 5y ago
  Responding to valid concerns with sarcasm does not build trust.
skinnymuch 5y ago
To be fair, it is very possible to not currently monetize or lead capture along with little to no intention for that in the future. You just want to build an audience for the sake of it. Of course when that power of a solid audience is actually there, then the more profit seeking intentions may come in. Still, there’s no way to tell what path the person will go down. I don’t think assuming bad faith in your last paragraph is needed. A trope on HN is acting holier than thou or rationalizing own behavior. IE piracy of media or ad blocking scorched earth style without true principled reason like malware or tracking. The biggest I have found is the person likely doesn’t make their paycheck now or in the recent past from super principled pious-like work. Or they did make their money that way and are now changed. Like The Social Dilemma film. Almost entirely filled with multi millionaires and two billionaires who made at least a chunk of their fortunes from social media. Money they are most certainly keeping and power/influence gained they are most certainly using too — I mean they are on this trending big documentary talking about helping the common man vs big social media/tech while not being the common man because of money from said industry.