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> How can you talk about security if there is spyware on every Chromebook? I mean Google Chrome. I have the option, in Chrome, to decide what is synced up to "

by Syonyk 5y ago

> How can you talk about security if there is spyware on every Chromebook? I mean Google Chrome. I have the option, in Chrome, to decide what is synced up to "the Google cloud." Are you asserting that this doesn't work - that if I turn off history/bookmark/etc sync, that this is still pushed up? I've not SSL intercepted a Chromebook to determine it, but I believe if you tell it not to do something, it won't. You've got a bit of a solid anti-Google screed here, but you've not bothered to actually provide any evidence in favor of it. > * Regarding the operating system, how can you trust more a system from Google than a system you build yourself?* Because they hire an awful lot more security conscious people than I am, who I believe know their stuff pretty darn well. As for your list of "You can't XYZ in a browser," you can put Linux in a chroot on a Chromebook in developer mode, so most of what you claim is either false through extensions, or false through Linux dev environments. > Also, if internet doesn't work you are basically screwed, what do you do? Well, I keep a local Ubuntu repo at home, so...

alerighi 5y ago
> I have the option, in Chrome, to decide what is synced up to "the Google cloud." Are you asserting that this doesn't work - that if I turn off history/bookmark/etc sync, that this is still pushed up? I've not SSL intercepted a Chromebook to determine it, but I believe if you tell it not to do something, it won't. How can you be sure? Chrome is a proprietary software. Even if you don't sync up with your Google account, Google collects some usage statistics and similar things. Of course you can use Chromium (and Chromium OS) that is open source and thus doesn't contain that kind of trackers, but we were talking about Chrome OS. > Because they hire an awful lot more security conscious people than I am, who I believe know their stuff pretty darn well. They hire them to make Google interest, not yours. Google interest is to track you and make profit with your personal data. Your interest is having a system that preserves your privacy rights. > you can put Linux in a chroot on a Chromebook in developer mode Yes, you can, with some limitations. But at that point, why not installing Linux as the main OS on the Chromebook with Firefox as the default browser and throw away all the Google crap? > Well, I keep a local Ubuntu repo at home, so... Because you reinstall your software everyday? I install all the software I need when I install the operating system and I'm done. I can work without internet fine, of course I cannot do anything that requires a connection (emails, for example), but I can do everything else. With browser based software if you don't have a connection you can't do anything. We evolved from the idea of mainframes to the personal computer, and then we are going back to mainframes with all the disadvantages that they have.

by Syonyk 5y ago

alerighi 5y ago

> I have the option, in Chrome, to decide what is synced up to "the Google cloud." Are you asserting that this doesn't work - that if I turn off history/bookmark/etc sync, that this is still pushed up? I've not SSL intercepted a Chromebook to determine it, but I believe if you tell it not to do something, it won't. How can you be sure? Chrome is a proprietary software. Even if you don't sync up with your Google account, Google collects some usage statistics and similar things. Of course you can use Chromium (and Chromium OS) that is open source and thus doesn't contain that kind of trackers, but we were talking about Chrome OS. > Because they hire an awful lot more security conscious people than I am, who I believe know their stuff pretty darn well. They hire them to make Google interest, not yours. Google interest is to track you and make profit with your personal data. Your interest is having a system that preserves your privacy rights. > you can put Linux in a chroot on a Chromebook in developer mode Yes, you can, with some limitations. But at that point, why not installing Linux as the main OS on the Chromebook with Firefox as the default browser and throw away all the Google crap? > Well, I keep a local Ubuntu repo at home, so... Because you reinstall your software everyday? I install all the software I need when I install the operating system and I'm done. I can work without internet fine, of course I cannot do anything that requires a connection (emails, for example), but I can do everything else. With browser based software if you don't have a connection you can't do anything. We evolved from the idea of mainframes to the personal computer, and then we are going back to mainframes with all the disadvantages that they have.