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> That's antithetical to the idea of self-hosted, private chat networks which irc allows for. It seems odd to hold both the “we should use de-centralized (or l
by elithrar 5y ago
> That's antithetical to the idea of self-hosted, private chat networks which irc allows for.
It seems odd to hold both the “we should use de-centralized (or less centralized) systems” and “users MUST use these systems and no others” at the same time.
People find utility in IRCCloud - I know I did (when I used it) as it helped me keep up + provided a good mobile experience on top of that. IRCCloud existing doesn’t take away from those who wish to connect directly or use their own bouncers.
- smolder 5y agoIt does take away from users who want to directly join a private channel. As soon as a channel is joined by an irccloud user, that channel becomes transparent to irccloud, a big, opaque, centralized service who is a giant attack surface for broadly spying on irc servers.
- alphabet9000 5y agoUnfortunately, the privacy model of an IRC private channel is only as private as the privacy precautions taken by members of the private channel. Someone could run a ZNC bouncer on their own server, and have it connect to Freenode. Then, they could connect to their own bouncer using the IRCCloud web client - effectively gaining access to Freenode via IRCCloud, and Freenode would never 'know' IRCCloud is 'listening' in on the channel.
- smolder 5y agoThat's a good point.