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YouTube's position is that this is medical misinformation about Ivermectin. One of the comments on this Twitter thread argues the video "isn’t just advocating

YouTube's position is that this is medical misinformation about Ivermectin. One of the comments on this Twitter thread argues the video "isn’t just advocating for more complete Ivermectin trials, he’s recommending its use based on a collection of low quality studies. That’s dangerous, and I don’t see how you can blame YouTube for deferring to the advice of the major health bodies on this matter." Personally I'd never heard of Ivermectin, so I Googled it, and for what it's worth the top result that came up was an official page at FDA.gov headlined "Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19" https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-shoul...

zackees 5y ago
The only downside your possibly protecting people from is “false hope”, as the medication is very safe. The possible up side you’ll miss is an actual treatment that prevents an unnecessary negligent massacre of elderly people. Ivermectin was so effective early on that India gave it put for free to citizens early on in the pandemic. Many studies show it works well. The negative studies from the centralized institutes are possibly explained by regulatory capture and corruption.
sbzidbms 5y ago
“ YouTube's position is that this is medical misinformation about Ivermectin” Its medical information by a medical Dr. Its unclear who advices YouTube. As to the FDA, theres a long list of by government agencies making mistakes. Thats why open debate in necessary in an open society.
Gibbon1 5y ago
I remember doctors at UCSF saying last year that they were treating patients within the bounds of what they know. And not just trying random stuff. I think SF case fatality rate is lower than other places. Just saying. Disturbing to me is constant claims that treatment X is being failed not failing. Yes that's happened in practice. But people making that claim need to put up[1]. [1] First doctors that came up with an effective chemotherapy for leukemia faced a backlash when other doctors it didn't work. They had to show that the other doctors were making changes to the drug protocol.
micouay 5y ago
Have you read the FDA's article? Let me summarize. Thou shalt not use Ivermectin because: > Ivermectin tablets are approved [...] for some parasitic worms. > Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm. (Unlike any other drug.) > There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. ...while also... > The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19; however, some initial research is underway. Taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous. This is true of ivermectin, too. > Ivermectin Products for Animals Are Different from Ivermectin Products for People Scientific authority is an oxymoron.
- skissane 5y ago
  > > Ivermectin tablets are approved [...] some parasitic worms. Doctors prescribe stuff off-label all the time. I've taken off-label prescriptions before. Our son takes off-label prescriptions. The fact that X has not been approved for Y doesn't mean much. Now that's not saying anyone should take ivermectin for COVID-19. I myself probably wouldn't, and if a doctor wanted to prescribe it to me I'd be sceptical. But my reasons for not wanting to take ivermectin for COVID-19 have little to do with the issue of on-label vs off-label use.
  - ds206 5y ago
    Here is a protocol for Ivermectin that is in use today: https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/ https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/ That website is run by FLCCC / Pierre Kory Here is a video about Ivermectin for covid, with Pierre Kory: https://youtu.be/4O7uy4tzI8A https://youtu.be/4O7uy4tzI8A

zackees 5y ago

The only downside your possibly protecting people from is “false hope”, as the medication is very safe. The possible up side you’ll miss is an actual treatment that prevents an unnecessary negligent massacre of elderly people. Ivermectin was so effective early on that India gave it put for free to citizens early on in the pandemic. Many studies show it works well. The negative studies from the centralized institutes are possibly explained by regulatory capture and corruption.

sbzidbms 5y ago

“ YouTube's position is that this is medical misinformation about Ivermectin” Its medical information by a medical Dr. Its unclear who advices YouTube. As to the FDA, theres a long list of by government agencies making mistakes. Thats why open debate in necessary in an open society.

Gibbon1 5y ago

I remember doctors at UCSF saying last year that they were treating patients within the bounds of what they know. And not just trying random stuff. I think SF case fatality rate is lower than other places. Just saying. Disturbing to me is constant claims that treatment X is being failed not failing. Yes that's happened in practice. But people making that claim need to put up[1]. [1] First doctors that came up with an effective chemotherapy for leukemia faced a backlash when other doctors it didn't work. They had to show that the other doctors were making changes to the drug protocol.

micouay 5y ago

Have you read the FDA's article? Let me summarize. Thou shalt not use Ivermectin because: > Ivermectin tablets are approved [...] for some parasitic worms. > Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm. (Unlike any other drug.) > There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. ...while also... > The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19; however, some initial research is underway. Taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous. This is true of ivermectin, too. > Ivermectin Products for Animals Are Different from Ivermectin Products for People Scientific authority is an oxymoron.

skissane 5y ago
> > Ivermectin tablets are approved [...] some parasitic worms. Doctors prescribe stuff off-label all the time. I've taken off-label prescriptions before. Our son takes off-label prescriptions. The fact that X has not been approved for Y doesn't mean much. Now that's not saying anyone should take ivermectin for COVID-19. I myself probably wouldn't, and if a doctor wanted to prescribe it to me I'd be sceptical. But my reasons for not wanting to take ivermectin for COVID-19 have little to do with the issue of on-label vs off-label use.
- ds206 5y ago
  Here is a protocol for Ivermectin that is in use today: https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/ https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/ That website is run by FLCCC / Pierre Kory Here is a video about Ivermectin for covid, with Pierre Kory: https://youtu.be/4O7uy4tzI8A https://youtu.be/4O7uy4tzI8A