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Youtube Alternatives : Centralized : Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Dailymotion, Vimeo, Vidlii Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube

paulpauper 5y ago
and none of the alternatives are even 1/100 as good or have nearly the same reach as youtube, which is how youtube is able to get away with what they do. VCs are much more interested these days in payment processing, which is where the money is, than video, which is expensive and hard to monetize..
- x86_64Ubuntu 5y ago
  >...and none of the alternatives are even 1/100 as good or have nearly the same reach as youtube None of this is the concern of YT and the content that they choose to host. By that logic, someone should be able to spam HN with information about my car's extended warranty due to it's reach.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  Sites that turn into landfills tend not to have very good reach nor be profitable.
  - MiguelX413 5y ago
    Monetization is antithetical to user freedom because it requires centralization.
- kennywinker 5y ago
  My blog doesn't have as big a reach as the front page of Apple.com, but that doesn't mean they have to put my content on there.
  - rejectedandsad 5y ago
    The most bizarre (or perhaps not..) part of this conversation is how many of the people that seem to promote the idea that YouTube should be compelled to host speech because of its reach self identify as libertarian.
sms737 5y ago
Combined they amount to 0.4% of YouTube's MAU.
userbinator 5y ago
Many of those are filled with even more fringe stuff like conspiracy theories, precisely because they wouldn't be allowed on YouTube. That makes it convenient for normalising public opinion, as anything on these alternative sites would be associated with even worse misinformation.
- simonh 5y ago
  > …if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. - Scott Alexander
- koheripbal 5y ago
  Unfortunately, the first thing to go to alternative sites is fringe content. As they gain traction, they become more "normal".

paulpauper 5y ago

and none of the alternatives are even 1/100 as good or have nearly the same reach as youtube, which is how youtube is able to get away with what they do. VCs are much more interested these days in payment processing, which is where the money is, than video, which is expensive and hard to monetize..

x86_64Ubuntu 5y ago
>...and none of the alternatives are even 1/100 as good or have nearly the same reach as youtube None of this is the concern of YT and the content that they choose to host. By that logic, someone should be able to spam HN with information about my car's extended warranty due to it's reach.
MattGaiser 5y ago
Sites that turn into landfills tend not to have very good reach nor be profitable.
- MiguelX413 5y ago
  Monetization is antithetical to user freedom because it requires centralization.
kennywinker 5y ago
My blog doesn't have as big a reach as the front page of Apple.com, but that doesn't mean they have to put my content on there.
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  The most bizarre (or perhaps not..) part of this conversation is how many of the people that seem to promote the idea that YouTube should be compelled to host speech because of its reach self identify as libertarian.

sms737 5y ago

Combined they amount to 0.4% of YouTube's MAU.

userbinator 5y ago

Many of those are filled with even more fringe stuff like conspiracy theories, precisely because they wouldn't be allowed on YouTube. That makes it convenient for normalising public opinion, as anything on these alternative sites would be associated with even worse misinformation.

simonh 5y ago
> …if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. - Scott Alexander
koheripbal 5y ago
Unfortunately, the first thing to go to alternative sites is fringe content. As they gain traction, they become more "normal".