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I have to admit, after I fought for remote work with a bunch of hiring managers before the pandemic, I feel quite a bit Schadenfreude right now. Also, I think,

by k__ 5y ago

I have to admit, after I fought for remote work with a bunch of hiring managers before the pandemic, I feel quite a bit Schadenfreude right now. Also, I think, in the long run remote work will level the playing field between introverts and extroverts quite a bit.

foobiekr 5y ago
It will not because remote only will continue to be rare. There’s a bit of a Harrison Bergeron thinking there.
- metalcore 5y ago
  Why would it? Are you reading the replies here? Most people want it. I doubt that management will be able to continue keeping it down.
- halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
  Take a look at Dice, Indeed, LinkedIn Jobs, Github Jobs, etc. Look at the amount of remote positions there are now. Objectively, your comment is false.
  - foobiekr 5y ago
    Let’s see where things are in 18 months. As someone who hires, remote at least does have its pluses - one can reasonably expect comp (costs) to decline and perks are gone. Not sure why I wouldn’t just hire a team in Eastern Europe though once remote is the way.
    - halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
      You're not going to hire a team in Eastern Europe for the same reasons why, in our current time, most companies don't use that method of hiring: time zone differences, language/culture differences and size of qualified talent pool. American developer salaries are so high not just because they're located in high COL areas, it's because most of the high performing developer talent is in the US. This isn't saying there isn't talent in Europe but per capita, the US has the lion share of the talent.
rajacombinator 5y ago
Level - how so? I’m on the extroverted side of an introverted team/industry. I love WFH because of its obvious superiority. Yet it seems to me it is more isolating of more introverted colleagues. It is a lot easier for them to take a back seat in discussions and a lot harder to draw them out.
- k__ 5y ago
  I had the impression some people got their positions via water cooler talk. They just became friends with their bosses when they talked about private stuff at work. Introverted people usually don't do this and missed out on this opportunity. Remote work removes many of these non-work related things, that could still impact your work. People who profited from it in the past won't so much in the future.

by k__ 5y ago

foobiekr 5y ago

It will not because remote only will continue to be rare. There’s a bit of a Harrison Bergeron thinking there.

metalcore 5y ago
Why would it? Are you reading the replies here? Most people want it. I doubt that management will be able to continue keeping it down.
halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
Take a look at Dice, Indeed, LinkedIn Jobs, Github Jobs, etc. Look at the amount of remote positions there are now. Objectively, your comment is false.
- foobiekr 5y ago
  Let’s see where things are in 18 months. As someone who hires, remote at least does have its pluses - one can reasonably expect comp (costs) to decline and perks are gone. Not sure why I wouldn’t just hire a team in Eastern Europe though once remote is the way.
  - halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
    You're not going to hire a team in Eastern Europe for the same reasons why, in our current time, most companies don't use that method of hiring: time zone differences, language/culture differences and size of qualified talent pool. American developer salaries are so high not just because they're located in high COL areas, it's because most of the high performing developer talent is in the US. This isn't saying there isn't talent in Europe but per capita, the US has the lion share of the talent.

rajacombinator 5y ago

Level - how so? I’m on the extroverted side of an introverted team/industry. I love WFH because of its obvious superiority. Yet it seems to me it is more isolating of more introverted colleagues. It is a lot easier for them to take a back seat in discussions and a lot harder to draw them out.

k__ 5y ago
I had the impression some people got their positions via water cooler talk. They just became friends with their bosses when they talked about private stuff at work. Introverted people usually don't do this and missed out on this opportunity. Remote work removes many of these non-work related things, that could still impact your work. People who profited from it in the past won't so much in the future.