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First observation: geez teachers in the US don't get paid "that much". In Ontario (province in Canada), teachers can max out after 12 years at > 100K a year, it
by waterside81 15y ago
First observation: geez teachers in the US don't get paid "that much". In Ontario (province in Canada), teachers can max out after 12 years at > 100K a year, it's not at all unheard of. The teacher's union here is very powerful, for better or worse.
I think deciding on how much a teacher "should" earn simply based on the time they put in and then compare it to another profession misses a valuable point - teachers can make a huge difference in the life of a human being. What's that worth to society? If a great math teacher encourages 3 kids to become engineers, then his salary is much less than it should be.
I saw a post on HN the other day about a teacher who told an otherwise disillusioned student that he was "gifted". Simply by being told so (he wasn't giften in the traditional sense) completely changed his perspective on school. If he goes on to become a contributing member of society, a good father, and good role model for others, then that teacher is probably worth more than 70K a year.
- learc83 15y agoI agree that a great teacher is worth a substantial sum of money, but in order to pay it we first have to work out some objective metric. It's relatively easy to become a teacher, so if we just start paying every teacher more money we just attract more substandard candidates.
- timjahn 15y agoIt's easy to become a teacher but not as easy to stay a teacher.
- learc83 15y agoWhere did you get that information from. In most districts it's nearly impossible to fire teachers.
- timjahn 15y agoIt's nearly impossible to fire teachers, but staying a teacher is tough in terms of dealing with the emotional and mental stress (or simply wanting more money). http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20090222/articles/902220325?Title=Teacher-dropout-rate-higher-than-students- http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20090222/articles/90222032...