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> Interestingly, this also describes all of math, logic, and philosophy. Which is totally fine, as long as people accept that God exists the same way math exis

• mensetmanusman 5y ago
  Yes, and ancient Christians asserted that God is love. Many do accept that love exists in the same way math exists.
  • ttfkam 5y ago
    Omnipotent. Omniscient. Omnibenevolent. Like the CAP theorem, you can only have two without substantial compromise.
    • mensetmanusman 5y ago
      Compromise depends on the understanding of the hierarchy. When ancient texts list God as Love, they note that Love is an act of (free) will (free will being considered a supernatural entity, even today). Free will is placed high on the hierarchy, which has interesting consequences. E.g. humans are free to do horrible things, and are free to choose not to love. If humans had no free will and were all instinct, there would be no love.
      • ttfkam 5y ago
        So you're saying there's evil and suffering in the world, but God can't prevent it because he created free will? Sounds like a limit on his omnipotence. Your explanation makes it out that free will is inherently prone to evil and suffering. If so, that would make free will somewhat inherently evil even though it arises from God. Strikes at the heart of omnibenevolence. Either there's a limit to his ability or a limit to his goodness. No amount of hand waving can remove that. If He is all good but can create creatures that corrupt his good works… You see the logical conundrum there, right? I would understand if you don't WANT to see it. It feels wrong to see it. But it's there if you're being honest. You can ignore it. Many do. It's still there despite any aversion to it.