4 ms·
There is some speculation about the motivations here: https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole-freenode-kerfluffle/ https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole
by progval 5y ago
There is some speculation about the motivations here: https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole-freenode-kerfluffle/ https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole-freenode-kerfluff...
- neilv 5y agoI don't know these particular people, but, absolutely, many people grew up with IRC and similar earlier online social forums as a refuge from trauma, or to find community or acceptance. (That started in the age of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_... , before more conventional social dynamics took over the 'Net.) If that theory is correct, I'd guess there's a good path to something that everyone feels better about. But it might involve Freenode being turned over to a nonprofit. I think many traditional users wouldn't go back, but the right nonprofit might find a way to pivot to new service to the world. In the credible nonprofit scenario, the value of the Freenode brand now might be of the flavor: we made mistakes, learned dearly, came out much stronger.
- manabi 5y agoI doubt any nonprofit credible enough is going to risk damaging their reputation by taking on Freenode after what Lee's done with it. Nearly everyone's already moved to Libera & OFTC, people aren't going to want to move back after all that work, and well, frankly, Freenode's very name is toxic now. Also, I doubt Lee would ever give up control, because it's clear controlling the network is what he wanted all along.