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I don't understand what the big deal with all this Freenode drama is. It just got renamed to Libera, update your host files and you're done.

jakelazaroff 5y ago
The drama is that whenever someone attempts to tell people that on Freenode, their channels get taken over and/or they get banned.
- StavrosK 5y ago
  My comment was a rather tongue-in-cheek take of how Libera is carrying on the spirit of Freenode, and we should just consider Freenode a random other network that somehow got Freenode's name by accident.
- raverbashing 5y ago
  At this point, if you haven't heard of it through other means then you're Out Of The Loop (yeah I suppose if you were on a coma for the past months and only read IRC and no discussions anywhere else...) But I agree, it's a bit of needless drama, especially when continuing on Freenode has shown to be untenable.
CyberShadow 5y ago
I do wonder why the Libera staff didn't kick off the network with a copy of the Freenode user/channel database. Perhaps the Freenode legal entity has a claim to it?
- StavrosK 5y ago
  What good would that do, if the users aren't connecting to the network?
  - CyberShadow 5y ago
    > What good would that do, It would save both staff and users a lot of time from having to re-register accounts, channels, and projects/communities. > if the users aren't connecting to the network? I don't understand this part, sorry.
    - StavrosK 5y ago
      If your users are on Freenode and don't know about your network, having the structure there doesn't do much good. It doesn't take much time to register nicknames/channels anyway, certainly not enough to risk a lawsuit from Freenode.
- mst 5y ago
  A commitment to privacy and principles. Fundamentally there was no viable way to get permission from the freenode user base for that in a way that was morally acceptable. (I'm sure there were legal reasons too but I don't believe the question ever got as far as that being relevant)

jakelazaroff 5y ago

The drama is that whenever someone attempts to tell people that on Freenode, their channels get taken over and/or they get banned.

StavrosK 5y ago
My comment was a rather tongue-in-cheek take of how Libera is carrying on the spirit of Freenode, and we should just consider Freenode a random other network that somehow got Freenode's name by accident.
raverbashing 5y ago
At this point, if you haven't heard of it through other means then you're Out Of The Loop (yeah I suppose if you were on a coma for the past months and only read IRC and no discussions anywhere else...) But I agree, it's a bit of needless drama, especially when continuing on Freenode has shown to be untenable.

CyberShadow 5y ago

I do wonder why the Libera staff didn't kick off the network with a copy of the Freenode user/channel database. Perhaps the Freenode legal entity has a claim to it?

StavrosK 5y ago
What good would that do, if the users aren't connecting to the network?
- CyberShadow 5y ago
  > What good would that do, It would save both staff and users a lot of time from having to re-register accounts, channels, and projects/communities. > if the users aren't connecting to the network? I don't understand this part, sorry.
  - StavrosK 5y ago
    If your users are on Freenode and don't know about your network, having the structure there doesn't do much good. It doesn't take much time to register nicknames/channels anyway, certainly not enough to risk a lawsuit from Freenode.
mst 5y ago
A commitment to privacy and principles. Fundamentally there was no viable way to get permission from the freenode user base for that in a way that was morally acceptable. (I'm sure there were legal reasons too but I don't believe the question ever got as far as that being relevant)