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> I mean that plain matter-of-fact-ly When you find yourself having to qualify such a statement, that could be a useful indicator that what you said isn't cons
by rootusrootus 5y ago
> I mean that plain matter-of-fact-ly
When you find yourself having to qualify such a statement, that could be a useful indicator that what you said isn't constructive.
- amusedcyclist 5y agoIts true though, not being able feel empathy for anyone or thing that is not normal. So any individual who can't would be well served going to a psychologist or being expelled from society entirely. Reduction of suffering being good is generally viewed as axiomatic. I don't want any part of any moral code that doesn't assume that. And I frankly don't care about the feelings of those who are indifferent to suffering.
- rootusrootus 5y agoI think it is a pretty big leap from 'maybe this is not automatically good' to 'you must be a pscyhopath.' If there were no trade-offs, then it would be a short discussion and we could definitely fall back on axioms.
- amusedcyclist 5y agoTheres a huge difference between the statements "Lots of humans eatanimals for sustenance and there is a tradeoff between the value we derive vs the suffering of the animals" vs "Prove that I should care about suffering".
- only_as_i_fall 5y agoI mean more likely the OP is just being edgy and is only performatively apathetic at a surface level, but the only thing we have to go off of are their words, which do point to some deeper problem.
- matz1 5y ago>or being expelled from society entirely So the main reason to exploit animal is because the other human hate it and that other human could harm you. I see so it has nothing to do with the animal suffering itself.
- amusedcyclist 5y agoNo its because the presence of such people in society only increases total overall suffering (animal or human).
- matz1 5y agoBut why would I care about the increase of animal suffering (if not because other human may angry) ?
- eurg 5y agoI know that rule of thumb, but it's only a rule of thumb. I haven't yet seen a way to suggest seeing a doctor via the written part of the web that won't immediately get interpreted as name calling by many people.