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It's not about the design, it's about the commercialization.

by ori_b 5y ago

ozim 5y ago
Thing is commercialization made it easier for people to express themselves and actually start using that resource. Commercialization made it form "only nerds sit in there" to "everyone is on the internet and it is cool", if there would be no commercialization, internet for masses would still be a silly toy. Just like going to the Mars - it is just a "hobby" for NASA, most of people on Earth are not giving a damn that they just landed another rover. There is no practical way to make money on space travel currently. Find a way to earn money on sending rockets to Mars or Moon, everyone is going to jump into it. Companies on its own without hype would not go to the internet or digitalize their processes. There is still loads of companies that are not digital. There are loads of stories of how companies started switching to digital last year because of recent events...
- ByteJockey 5y ago
  > if there would be no commercialization, internet for masses would still be a silly toy. Sure, but part of the fun of the old internet was that it was a silly toy that people didn't take too seriously, at least most of the time, there were definitely still some flamewars stemming from people taking things way too seriously.
- emptyparadise 5y ago
  Then maybe it's commercialization I dislike. I loved the silly toy internet. It was a place to get away from the real world. Now it's just a part of the real world. A lot of things turn lame once real names and money are involved. And that's the fate of most things once they get big enough. It makes sense, but it's still sad.
  - ozim 5y ago
    I don't think it is sad because it provides so much more value to the whole world. Keeping it as a toy for selected ones would be really selfish. There is still a lot of place for "not real world" in here.
- ori_b 5y ago
  > Thing is commercialization made it easier for people to express themselves and actually start using that resource. Yes, it certainly did make it easier for people to leave turds in the communal pool.
agumonkey 5y ago
I agree wholeheartedly, it's the evaporation of genuineness. You know behind most stuff you see now, there's a monetization attempt eyeing at the corner, and since people think web is for mass scale of low hanging fruits .. that's what we get.

It's not about the design, it's about the commercialization.

by ori_b 5y ago

It's not about the design, it's about the commercialization.

ozim 5y ago

Thing is commercialization made it easier for people to express themselves and actually start using that resource. Commercialization made it form "only nerds sit in there" to "everyone is on the internet and it is cool", if there would be no commercialization, internet for masses would still be a silly toy. Just like going to the Mars - it is just a "hobby" for NASA, most of people on Earth are not giving a damn that they just landed another rover. There is no practical way to make money on space travel currently. Find a way to earn money on sending rockets to Mars or Moon, everyone is going to jump into it. Companies on its own without hype would not go to the internet or digitalize their processes. There is still loads of companies that are not digital. There are loads of stories of how companies started switching to digital last year because of recent events...

ByteJockey 5y ago
> if there would be no commercialization, internet for masses would still be a silly toy. Sure, but part of the fun of the old internet was that it was a silly toy that people didn't take too seriously, at least most of the time, there were definitely still some flamewars stemming from people taking things way too seriously.
emptyparadise 5y ago
Then maybe it's commercialization I dislike. I loved the silly toy internet. It was a place to get away from the real world. Now it's just a part of the real world. A lot of things turn lame once real names and money are involved. And that's the fate of most things once they get big enough. It makes sense, but it's still sad.
- ozim 5y ago
  I don't think it is sad because it provides so much more value to the whole world. Keeping it as a toy for selected ones would be really selfish. There is still a lot of place for "not real world" in here.
ori_b 5y ago
> Thing is commercialization made it easier for people to express themselves and actually start using that resource. Yes, it certainly did make it easier for people to leave turds in the communal pool.

agumonkey 5y ago

I agree wholeheartedly, it's the evaporation of genuineness. You know behind most stuff you see now, there's a monetization attempt eyeing at the corner, and since people think web is for mass scale of low hanging fruits .. that's what we get.