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It's definitely being brought into other countries one way or another. Back in university, I went to study abroad in Japan and there were several American profe

It's definitely being brought into other countries one way or another. Back in university, I went to study abroad in Japan and there were several American professors at the university. The one's teaching arts courses such as English, Journalism, etc. would definitely sneak America's political rhetoric in their lessons. Now, I work for a Japanese company in the US and often go take business trips to Japan and can definitely see the American influence in the company's culture, namely because management is looking at what American companies are doing in order to be competitive on a world stage. One of my Japanese friends also noted to me that his peers who studied abroad in the US definitely brought back American style politics with them, and would view their Japanese school / work environment through an American lens, bringing up similar complaints to Americans, which Japanese who haven't studied abroad in the US, would think little of.

63 5y ago
Would you be willing to go into more detail about what sorts of things your friend says that are American in nature? I'm interested for the sake of self awareness.
throwawaysea 5y ago
This sounds like the “intellectual matrix” the French education minister wrote about recently: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/france-threat-american-universities.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/france-threa... > French politicians, high-profile intellectuals and journalists are warning that progressive American ideas — specifically on race, gender, post-colonialism — are undermining their society. “There’s a battle to wage against an intellectual matrix from American universities,’’ warned Mr. Macron’s education minister. > Emboldened by these comments, prominent intellectuals have banded together against what they regard as contamination by the out-of-control woke leftism of American campuses and its attendant cancel culture.
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  Wait, the American woke leftists are too far out for the French? (But it sounds like the problem isn't their position, but their actions or method.)
  - treeman79 5y ago
    Woke culture is heading towards the cultural revolution mindset of China from 50 years ago. Its been that way for awhile but was considered fringe until recently. Not it’s at a tipping point. Don’t agree with latest woke idea. Perhaps thousands of rabbis youth attacking you will change your mind.
    - throwawaysea 5y ago
      Related article and video: “Mom who survived Mao’s China calls critical race theory America’s Cultural Revolution” https://nypost.com/2021/06/10/mom-who-survived-maos-china-blasts-critical-race-theory/ https://nypost.com/2021/06/10/mom-who-survived-maos-china-bl...
    - FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
      I think you mean "rabid." This may be a problem with personalized autocomplete.
      - treeman79 5y ago
        It was auto corrected to “rabbit”. I changed it back to “rabid”. Or so I thought.
- TrispusAttucks 5y ago
  I think you're being down voted but you speak the truth. The current division, strife, and lack of unity in western society is in large part due to misinformation, propaganda, and psyops from adversaries. The primary goal is to make personal identity politics more important than national allegiances so that we rot from the inside out. We're not in the cold war anymore. We are in the Ice War.
  - akomtu 5y ago
    The interesting question is who's funding this ideology. CRT is very fundamentalist in its nature (i.e. you either blindly follow our dogma or become our mortal enemy - no middle ground) and it also has strong flavor of Marxism (I mean those calls to dissolve the family institute in favor of some communal state). Also, the woke like to hide behind blacks and women and pretend they talk on their behalf. Based on these traits, I'd say the origin of their funding is probably Hamas because their tactics is very similar.
    - yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
      I was with you until you linked CRT proselytism with Hamas. That seems quite a stretch.
  - iagovar 5y ago
    He does. Same concerns are arising in Spain as in France. American discourses are introduced through social media and this weird feedback loop some academics have with US universities. It's still not in mainstream but there's a growing resentment against this phenomena in some intellectual/political circles.
  - tomp 5y ago
    > due to misinformation, propaganda, and psyops from adversaries. Not really. The psyops is run by insiders. Trump was undermined by Democrats, FBI and American media. The “lab leak” theory was censored by big tech and ridiculed by US media. Russia and other “adversaries” are mainly just a convenient scapegoat.
- goatse_aas 5y ago
  > French politicians, high-profile intellectuals and journalists are warning that progressive American ideas — specifically on race, gender, post-colonialism — are undermining their society. French politicians are dipshits, who cares? Are you all really dumb enough to think that woke college kids are the biggest problem on earth? Of course you are.
jollybean 5y ago
It's happening on TikTok probably to a greater extent than by 'Professors'. TikTokers have 10000x the audience and they make powerful, emotional appeals to whatever their cause. Edit: when you want to change behaviour, do you hire professors? Or Influencers? Regular people do what Footballers and Pop Stars say to do, not what they read in journals.
tkgally 5y ago
Most culture, politics, education, and business in Japan is conducted in Japanese, and a large majority of people in Japan—some surveys suggest around 90 percent—do not regularly use English either online or off. The influence of American culture and political rhetoric is not very apparent in the discourse conducted in Japanese. I am an American professor at a Japanese university. When I came to Japan, nearly forty years ago, I thought that the American influence was indeed strong, because, at first, all of my media consumption was in English and most of the Japanese people I interacted with spoke English and had some connection to the United States. After I learned Japanese and broadened my social contacts, though, I realized that I had received a distorted view and that most Japanese people live their lives with little influence from or thought about the United States.

63 5y ago

Would you be willing to go into more detail about what sorts of things your friend says that are American in nature? I'm interested for the sake of self awareness.

throwawaysea 5y ago

This sounds like the “intellectual matrix” the French education minister wrote about recently: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/france-threat-american-universities.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/france-threa... > French politicians, high-profile intellectuals and journalists are warning that progressive American ideas — specifically on race, gender, post-colonialism — are undermining their society. “There’s a battle to wage against an intellectual matrix from American universities,’’ warned Mr. Macron’s education minister. > Emboldened by these comments, prominent intellectuals have banded together against what they regard as contamination by the out-of-control woke leftism of American campuses and its attendant cancel culture.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
Wait, the American woke leftists are too far out for the French? (But it sounds like the problem isn't their position, but their actions or method.)
- treeman79 5y ago
  Woke culture is heading towards the cultural revolution mindset of China from 50 years ago. Its been that way for awhile but was considered fringe until recently. Not it’s at a tipping point. Don’t agree with latest woke idea. Perhaps thousands of rabbis youth attacking you will change your mind.
  - throwawaysea 5y ago
    Related article and video: “Mom who survived Mao’s China calls critical race theory America’s Cultural Revolution” https://nypost.com/2021/06/10/mom-who-survived-maos-china-blasts-critical-race-theory/ https://nypost.com/2021/06/10/mom-who-survived-maos-china-bl...
  - FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
    I think you mean "rabid." This may be a problem with personalized autocomplete.
    - treeman79 5y ago
      It was auto corrected to “rabbit”. I changed it back to “rabid”. Or so I thought.
TrispusAttucks 5y ago
I think you're being down voted but you speak the truth. The current division, strife, and lack of unity in western society is in large part due to misinformation, propaganda, and psyops from adversaries. The primary goal is to make personal identity politics more important than national allegiances so that we rot from the inside out. We're not in the cold war anymore. We are in the Ice War.
- akomtu 5y ago
  The interesting question is who's funding this ideology. CRT is very fundamentalist in its nature (i.e. you either blindly follow our dogma or become our mortal enemy - no middle ground) and it also has strong flavor of Marxism (I mean those calls to dissolve the family institute in favor of some communal state). Also, the woke like to hide behind blacks and women and pretend they talk on their behalf. Based on these traits, I'd say the origin of their funding is probably Hamas because their tactics is very similar.
  - yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
    I was with you until you linked CRT proselytism with Hamas. That seems quite a stretch.
- iagovar 5y ago
  He does. Same concerns are arising in Spain as in France. American discourses are introduced through social media and this weird feedback loop some academics have with US universities. It's still not in mainstream but there's a growing resentment against this phenomena in some intellectual/political circles.
- tomp 5y ago
  > due to misinformation, propaganda, and psyops from adversaries. Not really. The psyops is run by insiders. Trump was undermined by Democrats, FBI and American media. The “lab leak” theory was censored by big tech and ridiculed by US media. Russia and other “adversaries” are mainly just a convenient scapegoat.
goatse_aas 5y ago
> French politicians, high-profile intellectuals and journalists are warning that progressive American ideas — specifically on race, gender, post-colonialism — are undermining their society. French politicians are dipshits, who cares? Are you all really dumb enough to think that woke college kids are the biggest problem on earth? Of course you are.

jollybean 5y ago

It's happening on TikTok probably to a greater extent than by 'Professors'. TikTokers have 10000x the audience and they make powerful, emotional appeals to whatever their cause. Edit: when you want to change behaviour, do you hire professors? Or Influencers? Regular people do what Footballers and Pop Stars say to do, not what they read in journals.

tkgally 5y ago

Most culture, politics, education, and business in Japan is conducted in Japanese, and a large majority of people in Japan—some surveys suggest around 90 percent—do not regularly use English either online or off. The influence of American culture and political rhetoric is not very apparent in the discourse conducted in Japanese. I am an American professor at a Japanese university. When I came to Japan, nearly forty years ago, I thought that the American influence was indeed strong, because, at first, all of my media consumption was in English and most of the Japanese people I interacted with spoke English and had some connection to the United States. After I learned Japanese and broadened my social contacts, though, I realized that I had received a distorted view and that most Japanese people live their lives with little influence from or thought about the United States.