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You make it sound like she was forced to do this. There's nothing in Christianity that forces you to give your money to the Church or to become a nun. You do th

• trowaway7642 5y ago
  Free will doesn’t exist though. Everything is cause and effect. In this case it looks like a cult and mental illness made for an interesting but sad outcome.
  • slater 5y ago
    Thank you for your opinion.
    • trowaway7642 5y ago
      Not really an opinion when science favors the assertion unlike wanting to believe in an illogical fantasy.
      • jazzyjackson 5y ago
        When you think someone else is crazy, consider that you may be misinterpreting what they're saying. Religion is a different language, it doesn't map on to your demand for logical reason.
        • trowaway7642 5y ago
          Mental illness doesn’t equate to crazy if that’s what you’re replying towards my previous comment mentioning mental illness. Although I see a world that just boils down to cause & effect, I find nothing wrong with people desiring to believe in spiritual deities but being part of a religion is where I speculate a lot of unhealthy behavior grows and has undeniably harmed a lot of lgbtq+ children. I would rather associate with a group of people that prefer logic & reason any day over persons that prefer faith because I’ve noticed in my life that persons that prefer faith have desires to control others without much concern towards the persons they control not wishing to be treated in such a manner. I grew up in a catholic family and I wouldn’t be surprised if the hell they fear isn’t deserved for their controlling tendencies that religion encourages.
      • bencollier49 5y ago
        Science favours nothing. Positivism has failed as a philosophy, and the only thing we can decide from logic is that it cannot comprehensively describe the origins of existence. I'm sorry, but past disproving myths which most people always understood were figurative (Genesis et al), science is not in a place to comment on the fundamentals of religion.
        • trowaway7642 5y ago
          Nonsense, neuroscience favors free will being nothing more than an illusion while plebs still eat up the nonsensical belief for breakfast on Sundays.
          • amanaplanacanal 5y ago
            If free will really is an illusion, then you can’t help believing what you do, and they can’t help believing what they do.
            • trowaway7642 5y ago
              Of course some are predestined to be plebs for however fate has it written in stone but the same argument could’ve been made towards the earth being the center of the universe. Gratefully, academics can push society forward by helping the plebs get the resources to learn free will is an illusion and have a healthier life with that knowledge. Although still destined by predeterminism.
              • bencollier49 5y ago
                "Plebs" - this arrogance is also characteristic of the cast of scientists who think they can do philosophy.
                • trowaway7642 5y ago
                  Pleb - an ordinary person, especially one from the lower social classes. That’s generally where majority of believers in free will fall into. Besides the few that came from such families and got out of that lifestyle. Anyhow I believe you wrote arrogance unfairly when it’s simply honesty. Sure, a few great compatibilist exist in philosophy but their definition of free will is nothing of the sort like what the plebs believe.
• Thorrez 5y ago
  >There's nothing in Christianity that forces you to give your money to the Church There's a wide variety of Christian churches. Some can be aggressive in asking for money. Most of them do promote donation of some of your money to them. The percentage varies. Some say 10% (tithe), some say whatever you feel is best, some might say all. I don't think the Catholic Church is very aggressive, nor does it say members should give it all their money.
• renewiltord 5y ago
  Hmm, also true of Scientology, non?
  • iammisc 5y ago
    A nun won't be excommunicated for leaving the convent or shunned. Nor would a priest. You'd be surprised how many laicized priests there are around, some of whom are even married. Or how many ex-nuns there are. My principal at my Catholic elementary school was an ex-nun -- incredibly strict and orthodox Catholic as well. No secret was made of her history. She left the convent when she didn't think it was helping her. Still kept her vow of celibacy, although she was technically dispensed of it, and could have married if she had wanted to.
    • renewiltord 5y ago
      Fair enough.
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