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>Files is a system app like Windows Explorer. It’s not meant to “compete” with anything. That defence helped Internet Explorer a lot. Nope. At the very least s
by yyyk 5y ago
>Files is a system app like Windows Explorer. It’s not meant to “compete” with anything.
That defence helped Internet Explorer a lot. Nope. At the very least searching for 'dropbox' should return 'dropbox' and not be overriden by Apple.
>but for some reason its position in the App Store is a controversial topic? How many people even delete Files and search for it again?
This makes Apple's defence for manually placing Files at #1 even more nonsensical.
>iCloud Drive is a cloud storage competitor that Files works well with, but Files also supports Dropbox and Google Drive and many other storage competitors...
If all users installed DropBox, iCloud Drive would get $0. If they used Files, some percentage of users would pay for Apple's solution. That the financial benefit doesn't get 100 percent of users does not make it not a financial benefit.
- 63 5y ago>That defense helped Internet Explorer a lot. The past tense implies that battle was already won. Afaik, Windows still uses anti-competetive practices to support Edge (not uninstallable, and 'are you sure you want to change your default browser? Check out the New Edge first!'). The same defense still applies if they want it. I don't think it's right to speak about it like it's a thing of the past.
- tempodox 5y agoPrivatezilla [1] helps with many nuisances. Among others, you can block Edge installation with it. [1] https://github.com/builtbybel/privatezilla https://github.com/builtbybel/privatezilla
- graeme 5y agoA filesystem and an internet browser are two very different things! Files = Windows explorer, the filesystem. Which is not internet explorer, the browser. Dropbox and Files indeed aren’t really competitors. I often use Files to browser my Dropbox files!
- mthoms 5y agoI just uninstalled Dropbox and upgraded my iCloud storage. I’ll admit it’s an experiment to see if it meets my needs, but for my use case(syncing between my desktop and laptop), they are absolutely direct competitors.
- simondotau 5y agoYes, iCloud certainly does compete with Dropbox. But Files doesn’t. You didn’t use the Files app to upgrade your iCloud storage, you went to Settings or a web browser.
- oarsinsync 5y agoHow do you use iCloud Drive to sync arbitrary files between iOS and macOS? Is there a dedicated iCloud Drive app that competes with the Dropbox app? I don’t think there is. I think the only first party interface for syncing arbitrary files in iCloud Drive is the Files app.
- saurik 5y agoYeah: this whole argument that Files isn't competing with Dropbox because it has some other functionality Dropbox doesn't have is absurd. One may as well directly copy someone else's product and then add a clock to it and claim "my app doesn't compete with your app because my app also has a clock and I imagine some people are using it just for the clock". If iCloud Drive were integrated with some other even more complex app (as honestly, almost everything people want to do with the Files app they can do with Dropbox: they are direct competitors if you reverse the order of comparison) like Safari or iTunes, then that would make that entire app compete with Dropbox. If iPhoto adds a filter that competes with some standalone photo effects app--maybe Prisma--and then when people search for Prisma they are directed to install iPhoto instead, that isn't somehow "not a problem" because iPhoto has a million more features than Prisma: that would be Apple abusing their App Store monopoly to nudge people to maybe (as nothing is 100%, and it doesn't need to be to be "a problem") use their software instead of Prisma.
- jsjohnst 5y ago> If all users installed DropBox, iCloud Drive would get $0. I pay for both and I doubt I’m the only one.