4 ms·

What’s even more interesting is that most ideologies also adhere to a standard religious framework as well: - anthropology - problem of evil/sin - redemption

What’s even more interesting is that most ideologies also adhere to a standard religious framework as well: - anthropology - problem of evil/sin - redemption - eschatology If your system he answers to these, you basically have a religion.

Retric 5y ago
That’s a very western take on religion. Some have no belief in an end time with a static or cyclical world. Sin/evil isn’t really a thing in many religions. Polytheistic religions for example can have multiple contradictory ideas for what the correct actions are.
- lolinder 5y ago
  Eschatology doesn't just have to do with the end times. It is "concerned with death, judgment, and the final destiny of the soul". Hinduism and Buddhism clearly address this. Confucianism and Shinto may be exceptions, and of course there are plenty others that I'm not familiar with, but eschatology is far from being only a preoccupation of Western religions.
  - Retric 5y ago
    Dropping the end of that quote completely changes the meaning it’s. "the part of theology concerned with death, judgment, and the final destiny of the soul and of humankind" It’s a separate idea from simple questions of the afterlife. Buddhism is really interesting here because there was such a wide range of different beliefs involved some of which fit that idea and others don’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_eschatology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_eschatology
    - lolinder 5y ago
      It doesn't completely change the meaning, it drops a subset of the meaning. Eschatology encompasses both types of ends. The OP seemed under the impression it only involved the end of the universe/world.
      - Retric 5y ago
        AND is not OR, but I understand your confusion.
        lolinder 5y ago
        You're assuming that the author was writing with mathematical precision. Dictionaries rarely are. Here's an alternative definition from Merriam Webster: > a belief concerning death, the end of the world, or the ultimate destiny of humankind

Retric 5y ago

That’s a very western take on religion. Some have no belief in an end time with a static or cyclical world. Sin/evil isn’t really a thing in many religions. Polytheistic religions for example can have multiple contradictory ideas for what the correct actions are.

lolinder 5y ago
Eschatology doesn't just have to do with the end times. It is "concerned with death, judgment, and the final destiny of the soul". Hinduism and Buddhism clearly address this. Confucianism and Shinto may be exceptions, and of course there are plenty others that I'm not familiar with, but eschatology is far from being only a preoccupation of Western religions.
- Retric 5y ago
  Dropping the end of that quote completely changes the meaning it’s. "the part of theology concerned with death, judgment, and the final destiny of the soul and of humankind" It’s a separate idea from simple questions of the afterlife. Buddhism is really interesting here because there was such a wide range of different beliefs involved some of which fit that idea and others don’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_eschatology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_eschatology
  - lolinder 5y ago
    It doesn't completely change the meaning, it drops a subset of the meaning. Eschatology encompasses both types of ends. The OP seemed under the impression it only involved the end of the universe/world.
    - Retric 5y ago
      AND is not OR, but I understand your confusion.
      - lolinder 5y ago
        You're assuming that the author was writing with mathematical precision. Dictionaries rarely are. Here's an alternative definition from Merriam Webster: > a belief concerning death, the end of the world, or the ultimate destiny of humankind