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Did they end up banning the bikini clad girls with cameras on their cleavages, or is twitch still in competition with onlyfans?

baal80spam 5y ago
This is a separate category now: https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/ttv-boxart/Pools,%20Hot%20Tubs,%20and%20Beaches-144x192.jpg https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/ttv-boxart/Pools,%20Hot%20Tubs,...
- MauranKilom 5y ago
  "Separate" as in "just another kind of content on the platform". It's not exactly segregated (like, say, imgur did).
  - runevault 5y ago
    Except it IS segregated from an advertiser PoV (aka companies that don't want to attach their ads to that sort of content can opt out of it when setting up their ad campaigns).
  - 1_player 5y ago
    I installed Twitch on a just unboxed NVIDIA Shield TV, not yet logged in, the first recommended stream was a lady in very revealing bikini doing "ear licking ASMR". The second one was another in generous and prominent cleavage, just chatting with her thousand of viewers. It's not exactly segregated, nor separate, but actively promoted.
syshum 5y ago
I dont think they are in competition, clearly Twitch is a Feeder Platform for onlyfans. Amazon should just buy OF Ironically I have been seeing a lot of ads for OF where it looks like they are trying to portray them selves SFW platform...
- theshrike79 5y ago
  There are a few SFW creators on OF, but they are a clear minority.
  - syshum 5y ago
    SFW and NSFW content is like oil and water, they naturally want to be separate from each other. When it comes to monetization, I am not aware of any platform, service or business that has been successful at both at the same time under the same brand. I doubt OF will be the platform to change this (or Twitch for that matter, as they rub the line between SFW and NSFW it is clear the majority of their advertisers are seeking them to be a SFW platform. )
andrewzah 5y ago
Twitch will never ban one of their huge sources of revenue.
- meheleventyone 5y ago
  Is it a huge source of revenue? The category never seems like it gets above 20k concurrent and that’s mostly for a couple of streamers. Right now it’s the 55th most popular category with 4.4K concurrent viewers which is two orders of magnitude less than the most popular category.
  - cdirkx 5y ago
    That is if you equate viewership with revenue, but most Twitch streamers I have heard talking about this is that the income from advertisements (scales with viewership) is lower than income from subscribers/donations (also scales with viewership, but more so with willingness to donate).
    - meheleventyone 5y ago
      Right but we don't have access to conversion rate by category to compare. And it'd have to convert ludicrously well and the other categories ludicrously badly for it to get anywhere near being relevant to Twitch's revenue. Personally I'd suspect the advertising revenue for the Top 10 streaming categories (over a million concurrent viewers right now) to far outstrip the sub revenue from the Hot Tub category (4.5k viewers) all by itself.
- moogly 5y ago
  DrDisrespect?
  - 1_player 5y ago
    Doc had a multi million $ contract with Twitch, while I bet these bathtub streamers don't, so they're cheaper, and get even more money in donation from very lonely viewers.

baal80spam 5y ago

This is a separate category now: https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/ttv-boxart/Pools,%20Hot%20Tubs,%20and%20Beaches-144x192.jpg https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/ttv-boxart/Pools,%20Hot%20Tubs,...

MauranKilom 5y ago
"Separate" as in "just another kind of content on the platform". It's not exactly segregated (like, say, imgur did).
- runevault 5y ago
  Except it IS segregated from an advertiser PoV (aka companies that don't want to attach their ads to that sort of content can opt out of it when setting up their ad campaigns).
- 1_player 5y ago
  I installed Twitch on a just unboxed NVIDIA Shield TV, not yet logged in, the first recommended stream was a lady in very revealing bikini doing "ear licking ASMR". The second one was another in generous and prominent cleavage, just chatting with her thousand of viewers. It's not exactly segregated, nor separate, but actively promoted.

syshum 5y ago

I dont think they are in competition, clearly Twitch is a Feeder Platform for onlyfans. Amazon should just buy OF Ironically I have been seeing a lot of ads for OF where it looks like they are trying to portray them selves SFW platform...

theshrike79 5y ago
There are a few SFW creators on OF, but they are a clear minority.
- syshum 5y ago
  SFW and NSFW content is like oil and water, they naturally want to be separate from each other. When it comes to monetization, I am not aware of any platform, service or business that has been successful at both at the same time under the same brand. I doubt OF will be the platform to change this (or Twitch for that matter, as they rub the line between SFW and NSFW it is clear the majority of their advertisers are seeking them to be a SFW platform. )

andrewzah 5y ago

Twitch will never ban one of their huge sources of revenue.

meheleventyone 5y ago
Is it a huge source of revenue? The category never seems like it gets above 20k concurrent and that’s mostly for a couple of streamers. Right now it’s the 55th most popular category with 4.4K concurrent viewers which is two orders of magnitude less than the most popular category.
- cdirkx 5y ago
  That is if you equate viewership with revenue, but most Twitch streamers I have heard talking about this is that the income from advertisements (scales with viewership) is lower than income from subscribers/donations (also scales with viewership, but more so with willingness to donate).
  - meheleventyone 5y ago
    Right but we don't have access to conversion rate by category to compare. And it'd have to convert ludicrously well and the other categories ludicrously badly for it to get anywhere near being relevant to Twitch's revenue. Personally I'd suspect the advertising revenue for the Top 10 streaming categories (over a million concurrent viewers right now) to far outstrip the sub revenue from the Hot Tub category (4.5k viewers) all by itself.
moogly 5y ago
DrDisrespect?
- 1_player 5y ago
  Doc had a multi million $ contract with Twitch, while I bet these bathtub streamers don't, so they're cheaper, and get even more money in donation from very lonely viewers.