I think his point is that "applying systems thinking" in many cases when at least shared casually like this post, frequently seems like some hand-wave that is e

I think his point is that "applying systems thinking" in many cases when at least shared casually like this post, frequently seems like some hand-wave that is extremely porous in its reasoning. Ie that was a whole lot of formality to deduce and say "other people will gang up on you if you're seen as too strong". Honestly I'd love to see an example of systems thinking that provides a unique insight that someone wouldn't have otherwise come up with by looking at a problem from more than 2 mins. An approach for thinking only provides value if it produces something different and better than what an alternate approach would have come up with. Every instance of support for systems thinking has either been used as a justification for an otherwise trivial result, or has been a version of the argument of "this person I look up to uses it therfore it's good". Can noone find an example where it actually demonstrates value?