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So you're saying parties in Europe are interchangeable? We know what happens with Covid due to science, modeling and stuff. But a virus spread is oretty easy t

So you're saying parties in Europe are interchangeable? We know what happens with Covid due to science, modeling and stuff. But a virus spread is oretty easy to model compared to a society and its economy. So until now it worked really nice, haven't seen a lot of studies saying it won't in the future, rather the opposite. Edit: or do you mean because we're getting older and hace fewer kids? Yeah that'll be a challange. Bit eventually every country will experience that, so lets figure out how to deal with this! And yeah, also let immigrants in ;)

oytis 5y ago
> So you're saying parties in Europe are interchangeable? No, not at all. But you don't have the same party ruling in U.S. for several decades. That would be legally possible, but that just doesn't happen due to how the system works. > So until now it worked really nice I'm not very well versed with the statistics here. But my impression is that social security is on decline. Welfare benefits sum grows much slower than inflation, and there have been studies that it's already not enough to even get the necessary nutrients. So it is a tendency that we see right now, not a prediction about some possible catastrophic event in future. > And yeah, also let immigrants in ;) There will be no immigrants if economy is weak, that's the thing.
- Rexxar 5y ago
  > No, not at all. But you don't have the same party ruling in U.S. for several decades. Look at state/city level and you will have a different picture of United States. And for Europe, let's take France as example. Here are the ruling party changes in the last forty years : 81,86,88,93,97,02,12,17 Do you know the average tenure of the current American senators ?
- viceroyalbean 5y ago
  >But you don't have the same party ruling in U.S. for several decades It depends on what country you're talking about, but looking at which party is the biggest/who the prime minister is and summing it up as the "ruling party" is a gross oversimplification of the power dynamics in a parliamentary democracy. The power balance shifting between smaller parties can bring about huge effects on the government and the policies that are passed.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y ago
  I agree that for example in Germany, it would be very helpful to limit the chancellor(...ship?) to two terms. But again, just because social security does not deliver all it promises - throw it out completely? I don't get that point. Tendencies that exist right now can be corrected. And that wouldn't even be more expensive, but at least in Germany, the money would just have to be distributed more fairly. For example, you get the same amount of child benefits no matter what you earn. That doesn't make sense. So change that a little and lots of people won't notice while lots of people will do way better.

oytis 5y ago

> So you're saying parties in Europe are interchangeable? No, not at all. But you don't have the same party ruling in U.S. for several decades. That would be legally possible, but that just doesn't happen due to how the system works. > So until now it worked really nice I'm not very well versed with the statistics here. But my impression is that social security is on decline. Welfare benefits sum grows much slower than inflation, and there have been studies that it's already not enough to even get the necessary nutrients. So it is a tendency that we see right now, not a prediction about some possible catastrophic event in future. > And yeah, also let immigrants in ;) There will be no immigrants if economy is weak, that's the thing.

Rexxar 5y ago
> No, not at all. But you don't have the same party ruling in U.S. for several decades. Look at state/city level and you will have a different picture of United States. And for Europe, let's take France as example. Here are the ruling party changes in the last forty years : 81,86,88,93,97,02,12,17 Do you know the average tenure of the current American senators ?
viceroyalbean 5y ago
>But you don't have the same party ruling in U.S. for several decades It depends on what country you're talking about, but looking at which party is the biggest/who the prime minister is and summing it up as the "ruling party" is a gross oversimplification of the power dynamics in a parliamentary democracy. The power balance shifting between smaller parties can bring about huge effects on the government and the policies that are passed.
j_wtf_all_taken 5y ago
I agree that for example in Germany, it would be very helpful to limit the chancellor(...ship?) to two terms. But again, just because social security does not deliver all it promises - throw it out completely? I don't get that point. Tendencies that exist right now can be corrected. And that wouldn't even be more expensive, but at least in Germany, the money would just have to be distributed more fairly. For example, you get the same amount of child benefits no matter what you earn. That doesn't make sense. So change that a little and lots of people won't notice while lots of people will do way better.