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Under the monarchy the UK has not been attacked by trolls for 360 years. If we get rid of the monarchy, are we doomed to be invaded by trolls?

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chrisseaton 5y ago
If you can't measure a system of government by the relative peace and stability maintained while it is in place, what do you want to measure it by instead?
- LatteLazy 5y ago
  I'd attack the premise of the question. There is no single measure. That doesn't make peace and stability a good measure. North Korea has managed a few decades of that, are they much better governed than the USA (for all its faults)? Look closely at your measure, the UK has fought 2 Iraq wars, an afghan one, one in the Falklands, another in Yeman, Lebanon, Kosovo, Bosnia, Libya and Sierra Leone all on my short lifetime. So the claim UK Gov provides peace doesn't look great does it? Not compared to say Germany or France (republics). The truth is, there is no strong justification for any one given form of government or for the House of Windsor.
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    You asked why we weren't being attacked by trolls and you want to attack the premise of my question? I think the French have gone through five republics in less than the last 500 years for example if you want to compare to them. Also been occupied. And I’m not sure comparing to Germany is a great idea… Fundamentally the reason we have a monarchy is because most people like it. It reigns with consent. That's in extremely sharp contrast to the leaders of almost all other countries. 50% of Americans will by design always detest their president.
    - LatteLazy 5y ago
      Hey, I just pointed out there is no hard evidence linking peaceful power transfer to the house of Windsor (or their previous equivalents). Plenty of monarchies fall apart, plenty of republics don't.
midasuni 5y ago
“ Imprisoning trolls: the rise of hate crimes in the UK and the increasing measures to tackle them ” https://sociable.co/social-media/hatea-crimes-uk/ https://sociable.co/social-media/hatea-crimes-uk/

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chrisseaton 5y ago

If you can't measure a system of government by the relative peace and stability maintained while it is in place, what do you want to measure it by instead?

LatteLazy 5y ago
I'd attack the premise of the question. There is no single measure. That doesn't make peace and stability a good measure. North Korea has managed a few decades of that, are they much better governed than the USA (for all its faults)? Look closely at your measure, the UK has fought 2 Iraq wars, an afghan one, one in the Falklands, another in Yeman, Lebanon, Kosovo, Bosnia, Libya and Sierra Leone all on my short lifetime. So the claim UK Gov provides peace doesn't look great does it? Not compared to say Germany or France (republics). The truth is, there is no strong justification for any one given form of government or for the House of Windsor.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  You asked why we weren't being attacked by trolls and you want to attack the premise of my question? I think the French have gone through five republics in less than the last 500 years for example if you want to compare to them. Also been occupied. And I’m not sure comparing to Germany is a great idea… Fundamentally the reason we have a monarchy is because most people like it. It reigns with consent. That's in extremely sharp contrast to the leaders of almost all other countries. 50% of Americans will by design always detest their president.
  - LatteLazy 5y ago
    Hey, I just pointed out there is no hard evidence linking peaceful power transfer to the house of Windsor (or their previous equivalents). Plenty of monarchies fall apart, plenty of republics don't.

midasuni 5y ago

“ Imprisoning trolls: the rise of hate crimes in the UK and the increasing measures to tackle them ” https://sociable.co/social-media/hatea-crimes-uk/ https://sociable.co/social-media/hatea-crimes-uk/