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Fairphone is European and small. There's really interesting enineering under the hood. If anything, Apple is the counter example of being efficient at innovati

by boudin 5y ago

Fairphone is European and small. There's really interesting enineering under the hood. If anything, Apple is the counter example of being efficient at innovation. They mainly package and market existing ideas in a really efficient way, but having such a capitalisation actually create so little is a waste. The same money spent on a lot of smaller companies is much more likely to produce actual innovations

zepto 5y ago
> They mainly package and market existing ideas in a really efficient way This is completely erroneous. They do often take ideas originating from outside the company, either by acquihires, consuming open source, or simply just using unprotected ideas. However the amount of resources they pour into refining and integrating those ideas into a platform that can be manufactured at scale and that consumers and developers can absorb is very large. It’s fair to criticize Apple for not originating core technologies, but to suggest that they don’t invest much in developing them is just inaccurate.
- boudin 5y ago
  I'm not saying they don't invest much, I just say the result is really underwhelming for the capitalisation they have to say the least. It's just more of the same thing year after year. So yeah, they invest a bit, but it looks like a big waste of resources in my opinion. The same money given to a lot of diffferent companies would drive much more innovation and employ much more people.
  - zepto 5y ago
    > I just say the result is really underwhelming for the capitalisation they have to say the least. Given that they are the market leader by far in many of their product categories, it’s odd that you imagine someone else could be doing better with less. The fact is that nobody actually is. If you are right, then whatever disappointment you have in Apple, presumably applies even more so to their competitors. > It's just more of the same thing year after year. You mean they haven’t introduced enough new product lines? Their actual technology platform is dramatically different today than it was 5 years ago. If you think it’s just more of the same, it means you are only looking at the outside. > The same money given to a lot of diffferent companies would drive much more innovation and employ much more people. The same money is given to a lot more people and hasn’t.

by boudin 5y ago

zepto 5y ago

> They mainly package and market existing ideas in a really efficient way This is completely erroneous. They do often take ideas originating from outside the company, either by acquihires, consuming open source, or simply just using unprotected ideas. However the amount of resources they pour into refining and integrating those ideas into a platform that can be manufactured at scale and that consumers and developers can absorb is very large. It’s fair to criticize Apple for not originating core technologies, but to suggest that they don’t invest much in developing them is just inaccurate.

boudin 5y ago
I'm not saying they don't invest much, I just say the result is really underwhelming for the capitalisation they have to say the least. It's just more of the same thing year after year. So yeah, they invest a bit, but it looks like a big waste of resources in my opinion. The same money given to a lot of diffferent companies would drive much more innovation and employ much more people.
- zepto 5y ago
  > I just say the result is really underwhelming for the capitalisation they have to say the least. Given that they are the market leader by far in many of their product categories, it’s odd that you imagine someone else could be doing better with less. The fact is that nobody actually is. If you are right, then whatever disappointment you have in Apple, presumably applies even more so to their competitors. > It's just more of the same thing year after year. You mean they haven’t introduced enough new product lines? Their actual technology platform is dramatically different today than it was 5 years ago. If you think it’s just more of the same, it means you are only looking at the outside. > The same money given to a lot of diffferent companies would drive much more innovation and employ much more people. The same money is given to a lot more people and hasn’t.