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I beg to differ. The fact is hard working immigrants in the US have a much higher chance of becoming successful than in Europe. Pretty much all the US tech com
by ChuckNorris89 5y ago
I beg to differ. The fact is hard working immigrants in the US have a much higher chance of becoming successful than in Europe.
Pretty much all the US tech companies are now run by immigrants of minority backgrounds while, for example, Eastern European and Turkish immigrants in Germany are still regarded as cleaners and kebab salesmen, with the only notable exception they can name being the Turkish CEO of BionTech.
- varjag 5y agoEven the top tier of decision making political class in the USA has many immigrants. In Europe it's still largely token presence faces in auxiliary positions.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoYeah the Trump government was really really diverse, and so are the boards of the large companies.
- varjag 5y agoSebastian Gorka is an immigrant, from the EU no less. So are the many notorious alt-right figures that are baked in your consciousness as ur-American.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoOk yeah the Nazis building your moon rockets were also immigrants, true ;-)
- varjag 5y agoI'm an Eastern European immigrant in Norway, stuff your attitude where it makes you warm.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoI don't follow ... what does that have to do with Nazis being a part of or employed by the US government? And I stand by my point that the big companies that the article is about don't have too much diversity on the higher levels.
- varjag 5y agoOf course you don't follow, because what you wrote was a non sequitur.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoYeah I also sometimes have those bad days where I just wanna insult people without even telling them exactly why ...
- varjag 5y agoIt was you who brought Trump and then to top it off bloody Nazis with a personal slant. Here is a brilliant idea for you, don't try to jab complete strangers you know nothing about, keep the debate to subject matter. Then you'll skip the whole hoopla of trying to arguing yourself out from uncomfortable corner you paint yourself into.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoYou talked about decision makers, didn't you? Was Trump not a decision maker? So I'm still not following, you really gotta give more context.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoI'd argue if you say "the fact is", you should provide a source for that. So low-paying jobs in the service sector are not an immigrant thing in the US? Did you talk to enough Europeans to know we can only name the BionTech guy as an example of a successful immigrant?
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago>Did you talk to enough Europeans to know we can only name the BionTech guy as an example of a successful immigrant? Please name some for me. Especially in Germany.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoI am one European. You would have to talk to a lot of Europeans to make the claim you made.
- ChuckNorris89 5y agoThe fact that you can't name any just proves my point. Thank you.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoYour logic is flawed. That happens when following some ideology.
- ChuckNorris89 5y agoIt may be flawed but at least I provide arguments for my logic while you just spam this thread with "Europe good because social system, USA bad because corporations"
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y agoYeah, however, what you should provide is evidence, not arguments. With "logic", anything can explained, if your logic is just skewed enough. My evidence? Reality.
- Applejinx 5y agoIf the 'higher chance' we're talking about is the chance of becoming CEO of a tech unicorn, established by the fact that there are CEOs of tech unicorns, is this not entirely a moot and meaningless point? Effectively the difference between a chance of 0.0000001% and 0.0% is not important…